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    2 months ago

    If you don’t hold it, you don’t own it. Unless you take the DVD from them, you can’t remove their access to the movie stored on that disc.

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      That’s completely bullshit. I can’t hold any of the thousands of videos on my NAS, yet they can’t remove access to them.

      Dvds are another form of pollution. We don’t need rotting plastic circles to store our videos on. Pirate your movies and own it for far longer than a DVD will be readable.

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    People! Try Yt-dlp, when spotify decide to make Spotify Developer available again, then yt-dlp plugin integration with spotify, still, in anna’s archive i think they will make available if not already the hundreds of TBs of metadata and songs managed to get from Spotify so media preservation and ownership will also be in the digital space

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    This has been the biggest and dumbest take I’ve seen come from the GenZ/GenA crowd. Polaroids were a big hit a few years ago and I can’t help but wince at this stuff. Yeah it’s cute or whatever to hold it in your hand, but in 1, 5, 10, 30 years…when that photo or DVD is bent/scratched/lost, you’ll be kicking yourself in the ass for even bothering with it.

    Just pirate your content, take photos with your $1000 phones and print the photos out, and learn to backup your own shit. Buy a 2 bay NAS and backup your shit to it. And then backup your NAS to a cloud like backblaze.

    My dad has been doing this since the early 2000s. We have our family photos AND videos from 1990-2026 all backed up on a NAS, which syncs to backblaze. ~600GBs of data. And the cloud backup on backblaze is $7.25 a month for that data.

    Literally anyone can go buy a a $200 2-bay NAS, then grab two 1TB hard drives for $40 each. $280 for a NAS that will last you YEARS. And then figure out whatever service you want to backup to for a cloud backup.

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      2 months ago

      While I agree with the general idea, your example prices are no longer valid since storage costs are now through the roof. The best defense of kids using DVDs is that you can borrow them from the library for free.

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      2 months ago

      There is a bit of a romantic feeling in only having a physical copy of a photo though, and Polaroids are the easiest ones to do this with.

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        And that’s completely valid, but I just want to warn others that physical items deteriorate.

        I’m currently digitally archiving photos of my great-great grandparents. You know how disappointing it is to have these photos, but then see they are all water damaged or torn or crumbled to all hell because of improper storage? Some scans are ok, others are terrible and will require work on my end to restore them digitally.

        I’m sure we have thousands of digital photos of ourselves, but how many of those are backed up properly? How many of us will be regretting not backing things up properly and we can’t share these photos with our grandkids or great grandkids or to reminisce because our phones died or Instagram shutdown or we stopped paying for iCloud?

        All I’m saying is take your Polaroids, but also take plenty of digital photos and back them up as well.

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          You deteriorate. We all deteriorate. What’s the point of that illusion of having a perfect eternal storage medium for data? It’s the experience that matters.

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            2 months ago

            What’s the point of having the experience when our memory deteriorates?

            See how stupid that argument sounds?

            Guess what, you can do both!

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              I can’t note anything sound ‘stupid’ there.

              Experiences AND memories do vanish. That’s a fact, it’s completely natural and fine and it’s not a general necessity to fight against that. I found that it is possible to accept transience.

              Guess what, we can have new experiences any moment.

              Spending much time and money to preserve all the present experiences without gaps and to combat the fleeting nature of all things and to capture every moment of my life for the future seems wasteful. I did this too in the past but the older I get the more I find that I’d rather spend my time in the present moment than in the archive.

              Not having so much, being more. The more we collect and accumulate, the more that holds us back.

              But hey, I don’t want to discourage anyone and I can understand the approach.

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    Not to ruin people getting off of streaming, but the biggest bang for buck in storage will be regular old hard drives unless you need to backup like >500Tb of storage (then tape drives).

    DVDs are cool but they only have a 4/8Gb capacity.

    BluRay pushes it to 70/100/120gb which is great for one 4K movie lol.

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      2 months ago

      Yeah, my vinyl collection is a decoration. The 20TB of storage connected to my PC is where the magic happens.

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    2 months ago

    We started buying BR and CDs for our daughter because we found the physical selection more rewarding to her and interactive. With the exception of the PBS app, no way that could all be a collection.

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    I’ve been collecting physical media for over 30 years. Started with VHS, CD’s and DVD’s back in the day. Now I’m primarily a blu ray/4k collector as the image and sound quality is closest to the filmmaker’s intentions.

    It’s been hard to see physical media slow down production over the past 5 years. The biggest loss is the wealth of information from all the special features that are now considered over and above what studios are willing to pay for. It’s unfortunate that the newer generation can’t expect features on par with what Peter Jackson shared on his Lord of the Rings Extended discs. (I know there are still boutique labels putting out great discs loaded with features, but they are fewer by the year and costly.)

    There are some moments in time where the world really surprises though, and it’s been a pleasant turn of events to see Gen Z embrace VHS!? The resurgence of vinyl was understandable as the sound exhibits a warmth and depth. VHS is a bit of a head-scratcher, but I can understand its nostalgic appeal. Just happy that people are enjoying physical media in any form.

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      The resurgence of vinyl was understandable as the sound exhibits a warmth and depth

      Only because it is adds pleasing artifacts to the original and people connect a turn table up to something to listen to it with. When used to hearing crappy encoded digital, with a bad DAC through lossy bluetooth to a tiny speaker, vinyl sounds better.

      Funny thing is that you can record vinyl digitally and that recording will sound exactly the same on good equipment which tells you it isn’t the vinyl itself that sounds good.

      In any case vinyl is extremely disappointing to see come back. It is a very energy intensive process, using PVC often mixed with lead. It is very heavy and bulky to move around, so transportation costs are high.

      I understand the desire to have a physical thing, but only its flaws make it be a reproduction of the source material AND is environmentally not good.

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    2 months ago

    The sneakernet and hard drives are the future. We never needed the Internet to share.

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    2 months ago

    I like to think that if streaming didn’t take over, the industry would have shifted to selling USB sticks with the media/game. Even if they did something goofy to “lock” it, at least being on a thumb drive would be more durable, compact, and have faster read time.

    Imagine a nicely organized self of DvDs turned into nighmare pile of flash drives of different shapes and sizes as each movie tries to make theirs stand out to make up the lack of a cover.

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      We have this audiobook player for children in my country. That works by buying those little figures and if you place them on the player, the audiobook plays. I think that a system like that for “adult music” would be awesome. Buy some little figures and art pieces by your favorite band, display them on a shelf and use them to play music? Yeah, that would be awesome

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      at least being on a thumb drive would be more durable, compact, and have faster read time.

      Actualy, thumb drive flash is the lowest quality, cheapest one (the yield thing, the outer parts of the waver). Do not expect your data to keep longer than a few hours weeks.

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      Because that’s how yields work, defective areas get firmware-disabled in the factory. Lower quality has only more of them, with less strict quality requirements to count as ok.

      To add, it’s a gamble; most are ok, some get data corruption on write, some after weeks. The “cheap” part is, because they aren’t expected to last more than a few TBW.

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          Not a joke. And why the downvote? Quality distribution is generally SSD > SD-cards > thumbdrives. Thumbdrives are no backup medium.

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            Wasn’t me, but I’m guessing because you said they only last a few hours? I took that ridiculous exaggeration and assumed you meant writing notes on your thumb.

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              I said, don’t expect your data to last longer than a few hours. Because that’s how yields work, defective areas get firmware-disabled in the factory. Lower quality has only more of them, with less strict quality requirements to count as ok.

              To admit, i’ve had few and late hours sleep the last few days, the autism sticks through. I’ll revisit the original comment.

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                Don’t worry, you’re damn right about the quality of those things. They have crap flashes, they’re slow and fail all the time, even most of the “better” ones. I’m shocked sometimes at how much people can trust these devices for some reason

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      Nintendo sells essentially a SD card variant in a case for the swtich. So you’re not far off :)

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      A system of organization would be invented. Idk maybe a wooden stepped board with USB sized holes that you store/display your collection in, just to use the first idea I pull directly from ass. Actually make it silicone for the grippy, already improving it, then sell the wood as a fancier looking one, and inlay a few with idk brass or something for a “pro” version, boom, marketing.

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        I’m sure there would be a million options, yours sounds quite fancy, and it will work great until Disney decides to sell giant mouse shaped drives ruining the whole thing.

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    Most DVDs produced will be rotted out within 20/30 years at most, only option is ripping what you can and migrate the collection to a new drive every decade, just make sure it’s a secondary drive and is of archival quality.

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      Rotted within 20/30 years? Honest question where did you get that ? I have 40 yo cds that are in pristine condition why would dvds be different?

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      Burned disks, you’ll probably lose some over 30 years, i’ve lost a few in 20 years, most are still readable.

      Poorly pressed disks, you might lose one here or there. I had a two where the aluminum was poorly sealed and flaked off the label side.

      I have hundreds of DVD’s in the 20-30 year range and have never had a problem reading any of them that weren’t scratched save the couple that were lacking in top lacquer.

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    probably the same reason I refused to leg it go.

    I actually own it, control it, and can use it at my wimsy.

    vs streaming, which I could buy it and still have it taken away from me cause you never own anything when its streaming/digital download.

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    … No they aren’t. Way more are just keeping their own digital media on their own storage. Even more are still just streaming. The least are watching DVD and Blu Ray.

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      Most people are braindead and mindless consumers across all generations, but there’s a really large portion of people who are more conscious about the value of personal property. Weird that most of them are the communists and socialists while liberals and right wingers in general basically all want big corpos to violate our anuses with as much brutality as possible

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      FR, people are also using digital media way more than they’re popping on a vinyl. It’s okay that these are niche subcultures. Not sure why everything has to be framed like it’s a cultural or political revolution.

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    I prefer dedicated digital players over physical media, for instance, a FLAC player with a digital library over CDs, but I’m glad to see this trend catching up. Anything that gets people building their own collections, escaping algorithms and escaping DRM/streaming is a huge win in my book.

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      I’m curious as to why? CD’s are the ultimate form of audio purity, in my opinion. I’ve got a kickass stereo set-up with a CD and vinyl hook up; also a cassette, but she don’t work so good no more. I always rip my CD’s to FLAC so I can put it on my iPod.

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        I’m curious as to why?

        Physical media scratches, rots, burns down, etc. They also require a lot of space, and you can’t have it all with you easily.

        My FLAC library is got the same or better audio quality, I can backup and copy in seconds for myself or friends, I can carry everything, or just curated playlists, with the toggle of a button, and I can preserve them on any medium I find - mechanical HDs, SD cards, SSDs, etc.

        Though I am very curious about vinyl…

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            You have a point except the portability. A single USB drive is infinitely more portable than a large cd collection.

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            Nothing a decent backup strategy can’t mitigate. Also less portable? Between the massive storage available on digital audio players and using jellyfin with something like symphonium digital audio is massively more portable.

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            But… those other storage mediums can also get damaged, burn, rot, etc

            Sure can. You know what else they can do? Instantly and cleanly copy their data to any other storage device, they can even do so automatically every day!

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        A decent music library would require thousands of CDs, it would be a huge hassle. Why deal with that when you can just copy all of that to one hard drive?

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    I miss walking the aisles and running across some film I haven’t seen or haven’t seen in ages. Having heavily curated list of films recommended for me makes me uninterested in even looking. Of course I’d enjoy this film, I’ve watched 6 times over the last 10 years, thank you algorithm.