I’m already self-hosting a XMPP and a Matrix server, just in case. A shame that most of the group chats I’ve found there are about free software, assorted geekery, but not much of what I’d usually find on Discord - hopefully that changes in a few years.
Plant the first seed and create those groups.
Fair that! Only problem is, I don’t have any acquaintances, but if I ever fix that, then maybe we can work on that.
I’ll join.
The XMPP channel search has a few channels that are not assorted geekery, but yeah most of it is.
I like xmpp, but it is not a discord alternative. It is a WhatsApp / Signal / iMessage alternative.
It doesn’t have 80% of discord features, I use discord a lot and I don’t have a single group chat.
Matrix / Element is a way better alternative feature wise.
Whether or not XMPP is a Signal or a Discord replacement is dependant on the client.
For a Discord replacement, there is the Movim XMPP client, which has group audio/video calls, screensharing (w/audio using chromium based browser), support for gifs and videos within the chat, and very soon Discord-like servers with rooms, after which the dev plans to work on drop-in voice chat rooms.
My only resistance to leaving discord is that it’s where 99% of my gaming communities are. There’s no way I’m convincing hundreds of people to move off to something I self host, or to self host themselves. It’s just not feasible.
You could self host it anyway and just wait for the slow boil over at Discord to make the case for you. Surely they have only just begun making it worse.
Yeah I have the same issue.
With this kind of mentality, nobody will ever migrate and one will have to deal with Discord’s horrible terms and conditions
The only alternative is to willingly leave over a hundred communities, some of which I have strong ties to, and never interact with the majority again.
That’s a big ask.
I want something that works like Discord for my gaming group (~120 people) and is self-hostable with a single „docker-compose up -d“.
But I started looking regularly for alternatives, and we will get there :)
Mattemost? Rocketchat?
Nothing will ever be just “docker compose up” but checkout movim. I think it’s good. Haven’t used it myself yet.
What’s Lemmy’s opinion on Fluxer?
I’ve seen this posted several times and this is the second time I’ve tried to access their self-hosting docs and get a 404. Where’s everyone going for installation instructions?
It’s a new project (as far as I can tell it just went public a few weeks ago) they have exploded in popularity in the last week and they are amid migrating their backed hosting provider ATM, they have been having service interruptions for the last couple of days
It’s hard being the
popularnew kid. Thanks for the update!
The sentiment I keep seeing is that it’s vibe coded, though the dev claims that AI was used but not in any core components. It’s one I’ll be waiting out personally, the whole huntarr situation has me pretty skeptical of any new projects
That there’s no shortage of wheels being reinvented, and that it takes insights developed over decades to be relevant in this field. To avoid.
I love it and use it daily. Once it becomes stable, gets a docker container and documents the self-hosting flow, it will rule the universe.
You’re not bothered by the plutonium stuff? Would you still host it if the plutonium features were still there in the self hosted version? (as in your self hosted instance paying them for plutonium on your servers)
I’m not sure what the reason for this theoretical is when it’s already documented that self-hosted instances have full free access to the paid perks.
It’s become pretty clear since all of this kicked off that none of the Discord-replacement hopefuls have the infrastructure to accept even the smallest fraction of users fleeing Discord. Paying for some nice-to-have features when using the official instance is at least a plan towards paying for that infrastructure.
Speaking on a more broad level, I find it more suspicious when services are free these days with no path to self-sufficient monetization. We’ve seen enough of those fall to venture capital influence at this point.
Thank you, that’s a very interesting perspective. I wasn’t aware of the plutonium thing.
I was under the impression that plutonium on my server would be controlled by me. Say, if I wanted to give it away, I could. At least, that’s what I’ve read.
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
Fewer Letters More Letters DNS Domain Name Service/System HTTP Hypertext Transfer Protocol, the Web IP Internet Protocol SSL Secure Sockets Layer, for transparent encryption TCP Transmission Control Protocol, most often over IP TLS Transport Layer Security, supersedes SSL UDP User Datagram Protocol, for real-time communications VPS Virtual Private Server (opposed to shared hosting) XMPP Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (‘Jabber’) for open instant messaging nginx Popular HTTP server
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Great bot
XMPP doesn’t seem to be well supported in terms of Windows clients
My parents in their 70’s are alright daily driving gajim there
XMPP kinda sucks
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