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CachyOS being the same level as mainstream as Mint and Ubuntu is copium.
Cachy is growing in popularity a lot. Negative publicity around Ubuntu is driving people to alternatives, and I’ve heard a lot of people are trying cachy as their first Linux distro.
People are trying cachy as their first Linux distro.
To anyone reading and thinking of switching:
DO NOT use CachyOS as your first distro. You will not like the experience, it was not made with total newbies in mind. It is Arch with a few bells and whistles, and you are not prepared to properly handle Arch, yet. You will get there later, if you want to.
I wish there were Debian with Cachy-gaming features. Wonder if I could just do that myself? 🤔
Debian is probably a poor fit for a gaming-oriented distro, since gaming is constantly evolving in terms of hardware and software features.
Even if you put as much as possible into a container or a Flatpak, your drivers will be old, which is critical even for older hardware, particularly in new games.
If you want stability AND modern gaming, maybe go for something like Bazzite? The system is very stable thanks to immutability and atomic updates, and at the same time you have all the modern gaming stack.
I’m not a fan of immutable distros, and always having the latest drivers has never been an issue for me. Having a system that’s less likely to break after an update is a bit more critical when it comes to actually being able to spend time playing games.
But what I meant is that Debian has tools I can use to recompile my packages. I’m not aware of any reasons why I wouldn’t be able to rebuild my system to replicate the unique features of CachyOS myself if I wanted to put in the work. And at that point I could always start with Sid as a base as well, which would be just as bleeding edge as any rolling release distro.
Or, there is always Siduction as well.
Looked into Siduction - seems to be a small project operating over Debian Sid, which I call a recipe for disaster when actually deployed as a home system. Sid is not meant to be stable, and you’re unlikely to get much support. And a small community project is unlikely to patch everything faster than Debian itself.
Debian Sid should not be seen the same way as Arch or other rolling release distros - the former is supposed to be broken, a bug here and there is a non-issue at this point of Debian development lifecycle. Arch and others are expected to actually be used as end products, so critical bugs are rare.
I had some counters in mind to the things you’re saying here. But I don’t feel like bothering. So I will just say the big problem with everything you’re saying, is that you’re arguing against using Debian.
Meanwhile just last night Elden Ring on my Trixie desktop went brrrr.
If I am used to Ubuntu, would I ever want to be on a rolling release?
Depends on your personal preferences!
Rolling release typically delivers the latest and greatest of Linux, which is kinda cool. It also removes all the headache of upgrading to a newer version and the possible issues stemming from that. You get to see the gradual evolution of your system, one feature at a time, and you don’t have to wait a month after a new version is released, just because some program you need is not properly ported yet.
On the other end, any update of the rolling release system can end up being somewhat breaking, so if you prefer setting aside time for managing your system instead of having a nasty surprise at the worst possible moment and at the same time want to have your system secure and updated at all times, classic model will be superior.
In both cases, properly set snapshots save a lot of trouble.
yeah, trendy distros come and go, i’d hesitate to call it mainstream, even if a handful of youtubers make a video about it.
And somehow more “independent” than arch, when it’s based on arch?
Lots of things wrong with this but one I haven’t seen yet is that CachyOS literally depends on ArchLinux, yet is more “independent” than it?
These are terrible axis to try and plot operating systems, and limiting yourself to such low resolution with no overlap doesn’t help.
Windows is less corporate than MacOS?
If we’re talking hardware restrictions, sure I get it from the walled garden.
MacOS is a bit more of a closed system because of their hardware control than Windows I think. But I tend to think of both as equals when it comes to being a crappy OS
LOL at Windows being marked as less corporate than MacOS. They should absolutely be at least tied.
Literal megacorporations have run purely on Windows since the 90s and it’s not S-tier corporate? lol
Windows is not at the top of corporate possibly because it can be installed on non-homologated PCs.
But on the other hand, all the reasons that people hate corporate OSes apply much more to Microsoft than Apple. Microsoft is the company that puts ads in their OS and is built entirely out of proprietary tech, and has been more vocal about shoehorning AI into everything.
How is Debian More niche than cachy?
You forgot SuSE, as usual.
SuSE too niche to even show up on this chart.
SuSE can hang out with New Zealand and Gen X
Arch isn’t hard to install (anymore). It takes 5 minutes with archinstall.
btw
Red Hat is based on Fedora, not the other way around.
implying that Arch is niche at this point
Technically, if you stop updating arch when it’s in a functional state it’ll never break.
Arch only breaks if you don’t read the wiki.
Update the repo’s gpg keys, read the Arch news, do what manual steps they mention and you can update it after a year and it won’t break.Arch only breaks if you don’t read the wiki.
Finally found the ultimate reason why I’m not gonna use Arch.
To be fair, the arch wiki is very good. I use it quite often despite not using arch. Quite a few things are valid on other distros, or you can get hints on how to fix it, like where to start looking.
My Arch install yesterday:
That’s a nice Kernel you have there, it would be a shame if something happened to it.
It somehow deleted the old kernel image from the boot partition but failed to write the new one (and I didn’t notice before rebooting).
I needed to rebuild the kernel via chroot from a live USB.
I’d make it 4x4 rather than 6x6 or fill it out a bit more.
where mah nixos
How about above arch Linux? Or at least in that column. Maybe further down
Fedora isn’t based ln RHEL, it was before, but now it’s in fact the opposite. As far as I know, RHEL 10 is based on CentOS Stream 10, which in turn is based on Fedora 41.
That’s correct. The community threw a fit when CentOS moved into that Stream position. Despite it being ABI compatible with RHEL.
Where’s Hannah Montana Linux?
I miss RedStarOS, Suicide Linux (OK, not a distro) and TempleOS here as well.
