Won’t be any different. It’s just a matter of time before Android goes the same
Mainstream Android will likely go the same path but there’ll also probably be 10s of workaround and forks straight up saying fuck you, bitch.
You won’t have any other option on iOS other that to take the boot up yo a.
And you’ll probably use the usual “most people won’t do that, tho”. These are kids we are talking about and have you ever told a determined kid that they couldn’t do something?
This kowtowing the corporations and governments is how we got here and fuck people who bend the knee before even trying.
bullshit. no they won’t. stock android also gonna get age verification, and is considered bad by apple users, plus its a different ecosystem. stop sharing shit articles like this.
I might be a minority but the week liquid glass hit my phone I ordered a pixel, sold my iphone. iPad, apple watch, and air tags that weekend.
I don’t know if that compares as one is a ui/function overhaul and the other is a data field for access to things.
We all know that every other manufacturer is gonna copy apple, exactly how basically overnight everyone switched to the flat icons of iOS 5
Example: Google has already redesigned the Google maps icon on Android to look more “glassy”
Is that so?Yes. Here is how the icon was in August 2025, before the launch of apple liquid ass:
And Google home had a similar “glass” icon redesign
Both bad.
Want the original one before the whole 4-color redesign back
I’m dabbling switching to GrapheneOS. Apple was the lesser of (obvious) evils compared to Google, but that’s becoming less true daily.
I don’t think I can make it my primary device yet, still need to de-cloud a bunch of services, but it’s very likely my next device won’t be an iPhone.
That’s my next move. I’m done with the mobile OS duopoly bullshit.
I’m also starting to self-host a lot of services.
its nice out here! waters fine
It a process. You can decloud while on the new device and the benefits will just increase with your progress.
It a process. You can decloud while on the new device and the benefits will just increase with your progress.
Folks, this is coming from your government. The phone makers want nothing to do with it and are actively fighting it in court as best they can. Switching between phone makers will not help, and is not the right place to put your energy. Address your concerns to your governments.
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The phone makers want nothing to do with it and are actively fighting it in court as best they can.
Doubt. This way they have excuses to farm user data.
The phone makers want nothing to do with it and are actively fighting it in court as best they can.
Doubt. This way they have excuses to farm user data.
It was this coalition of big tech companies that blocked Texas SB2420 from going into effect on Jan 1 of this year.
Believe me my dude if they wanted your birthdate they would have gotten it before. Or more likely they already have it without this.
I am more happy than ever with my GrapheneOS phone. Especially after they refused to include age verfication I recommend everyone to switch to grapheneos or any other custom ROM android
Same. GrapheneOS, no playstore
I will switch to Android
And you think that Google won’t implement user tracking? It’s literally their reason for existing.
While it’s not (nearly) as convenient, you still have the option to do no-Google Android. At least for now…
Google is working very hard on killing this option. I hope they’ll fail.
In fact, if they have the know-how, they should switch to something else. Android nowadays isn’t much different from iOS, and I’m pretty sure that what was included in iOS will eventually land on Android too.
iPhone users 🚶♂️➡️ switching to android
Android users 🚶♂️switching to iPhone
Android users 🚶♂️switching to
iPhoneGrapheneOSSwitching to iPhone would just be objectively worse in literally every way
Lol sure, like android is not gonna do the same
Easier to develop on Android devices than apple, so the more that switch, the larger the market and the more likely we are to get an android alternative to grow. Especially if an influx of apple users drive designs that are closer to apple, which would come at the expense of the android user experience. So as android moves to apple designs to appeal to he new Apple users, more android users will want a different experience.
Yeah but then you’ll have a green bubble
iOS doesn’t (or at least didn’t for a very long time) let you install an app without registration. 99% of those people have their credit card data registered with Apple. Now they are pissed that Apple will asks them to use credit card to confirm they are adults? Hilarious.
Why not just make it so nobody under 18 can own a smartphone. Why these fucking useless age checks.
Rhetorical questions aside. Let’s not counteract a dystopia with another dystopa here.
This. Smart watches exist. Kids don’t need smartphones.
If you grow up one of the tiny % of kids that grow up without one, it will result in some developmental disadvantages I think. On the other hand, modern social media will impose another set of disadvantages, but fact is that social media and the internet in general are a large part of modern society, so not being able to interface with it until you’re 18 will leave you behind a learning curve.
Actual studies say that kids that use phones and laptops are actually less intelligent. I think no phones until 18 would be doable. No laptops would be hard though.
Someone who didn’t touch a phone until 18 is going to be so susceptible to scams, catfishes, propaganda, digital manipulation, etc, that I definitely think it is a dangerous nuclear option. Controlled, monitored by good parents, layered introduction is definitely better in my opinion.
No idea why would they be more susceptible to scams. You think they would be more gullible? Or that they would be so confused about the ability to talk over phone? Smartphones for kids are security devices that let them communicate with parents so you would have to replace them with something, either dumbphones or smartwatches. Both would let them communicate with people over phone so it’s not like at 18 they would be exposed to something completely new.
Still, laptops would be more complicated because how do you ban those? A lot of grooming and child abuse happens through Roblox. How would you solve it without some sort of age verification? I think we either have to accept that kids will be exposed to those things or do what Chat Control 2.0 is proposing and impose age verification in high risk platforms. Since I don’t have kids I’m fine with just accepting the risk…
Please stop trying to justify fascist laws. Ageism is still discrimination. And like people, without prior experience it is quite logical they will be susceptible. This of course applies to anyone any age.
The only problem here is the predatory system that is designed to exploit people. The victims are not the predators so justifying how their rights should be stripped based on an arbitrary number makes this whole argument insignificant.
Like other types of discrimination: racism, sexism, there are other ways than to introduce more social segmentation which always leads to fascism.
This doesn’t make any sens. They would be susceptible without what experience? With scammers? You think children learn about scammers by interacting with them? I remember when I got my first “Nigerian prince” scam email. I was maybe 16 and I had no idea what it was. No one knew back them. What previous experience would help me deal with it? I’m sure being older would help but I’m not sure if someone trying to scam me when I was even younger would. There would just be higher change of me falling for it.
Also, the system is not predatory, there are simply predators in the system. The age verification laws are like bad tasting batteries and child proof bottles. Parents should make sure their kids don’t have access to batteries or pills but since a lot of them don’t care the government has to step in and put some protections in place. You can’t simply ban pedophiles from roblox and you can’t trust parents to oversee what their kids are doing online so politicians come up with some safety measures. Unfortunately all solutions are huge pain in the ass for everyone else.
Saying that age is just an ‘arbitrary number’ is delusional. We don’t let kids buy cigarettes, alcohol, drive or vote. The concept that kids can’t be trusted to make informed decisions is well established in every society in the world. Calling it ‘ageism’ is silly.
Actual studies say
The general consensus is the studies say that usage of devices impacts everyone. Let’s not cherry pick a particular minority here, just to explain that stripping their already insignificant rights is a good thing. In addition teenagers, which are not children, are dismissed here. According to studies they are more similar to adults in therms of decision making capabilities - dismissing that is ageism.
I think no phones until 18 would be doable
This is essentially the same speak as the laws trying to ban privacy for all. First of all where is the consent? Also, what is the sense of punishing the minority for being who they are, stripping their rights, if the perpetrators are still unharmed? In essence, phone and laptop usage wouldn’t be so bad for anyone (not just kids or teenagers), if we focused on the actual problems not turn to discrimination.
Why don’t governments force parental responsibilities instead? We wouldn’t need all our data sitting there waiting for the next data breach.
Because they don’t actually care abt kids or the Epstein class would all be in jail and they wouldn’t be facilitating the bombing of schools.
A bit of a dishonest question, but wouldn’t that argument lead to minors being able to buy alcohol “for their parents”? We are now shifting the responsibility to the stores, not the parents.
I have my reasons to think it’s not a fair comparison, but I’ll like to hear other’s.
So you’d rather have everyone’s data subject to being exposed and your behaviour tracked, as opposed to parents looking after and paying some attention to their kids? Wow.
Giving an iPad at your kids is not good for anyone. It’s easy though.
No, but it you missed so much what I said the first time I don’t think spelling it again will help.
In the UK
Yeah, it’s not about switching to Android, it’s about switching to the EU.
I always assumed that they were collecting that data from your contacts list already. I’d like to know how many people are actually affected by this or needed to “verify” their age after updating to 26.4
Also, switching to Android isn’t going to help with this.
