• NekoKoneko@lemmy.world
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    Banafa says he urges his students to use AI.

    “Don’t be left behind. I mean, if you see any kind of new tools in AI, any new projects by the big name, by OpenAI or Google, go and learn it. Get certifications, take classes that would make you in the front of the line when it comes to hiring,” he said.

    You can smell the misguided desperation from the person quoted through the screen.

    They’re laying off 10% of the workforce and simultaneously rewarding employees who waste as many AI resources as possible, including the one employee who burned $1.4 million in tokens in one month.

    It’s a contest in tech right now who can signal the hardest that they’re “AI-first,” and Zuck continues to show his lack of imagination and independent thought by lighting 10% of the company on fire to make the most smoke in a valley already choking on its own smoldering fumes.

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      I have acquaintances at Meta and they literally waste tokens on bullshit tasks. They have like 10 agents running simultaneously doing some elaborate task that takes a long time. You can’t tell me this is more productive or efficient than doing actual work. Even if half of these tasks are somewhat useful and related to your project.

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        Yes, second-hand experience is the same, it’s a race to find the most efficient way to light money on fire.

        I suppose Zuckerberg is too busy being an alien to check his own math on AI. Like the rest of the tech broligarchs, he just assumes he is right, and any pushback is just evidence that he’s “disrupting” which also reassures him he’s right.

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          I really don’t get this quantity-first approach. If you wanted to actually transform the world with tech in a way it’s not just superficial, you’d create task forces that sit together with specialist in each field of medical, construction, logistics, finance etc. give them 2 years to build prototypes and action plans. Then bet on the N most promising applications, spin them off as separate companies with premium access to your most advanced AI models and vertically integrate them into their workflows.

          This would actually, sustainably achieve a foothold into these industries, disrupt and transform them long term.

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            Yeah, exactly. And to explain why that bottom-up value-build didn’t happen, I need to go on a tangent about information-overload hypercapitalism.

            Before ChatGPT first made waves, there was an initial round of actual “visionaries” who saw AI potential and seeded it. Once there was a demonstrated cool tech demo, the hype cycle started as normal, but unlike in prior years, the story was too big to be contained by any rational limit, and every wall street and silicon valley bro had been primed with years of watching Musk, Jobs, Gates, Balmer, and Zuckerberg, and there are probably literally millions of them with aspiring billionaire god complexes. They sold themselves and each other on this being a technology that could do everything, and realized that by intensifying others’ wild plans, they would give credibility to their own.

            This feedback loop became self-reinforcing, until hyperscalers were creating trillion-dollar plans that objectively were and are insane, but everyone just kind of agreed were not insane out of self-interest. That simultaneously cut off the possibility of bottom-up innovation, because now everyone’s yacht and LA mansion and third vacation island home depended on the tech doing everything short of change your baby’s diaper.

            VC bought and funded the hype for a long time, but the “show me you can make money window” started shrinking from the usual years to months to weeks, and now AI startups aren’t even getting in on it anymore and even OpenAI is discontinuing products to save compute. Now, major companies are desperate to prove their hundreds of billions of dollars in spending was worth anything at all.

            Which means, the rational, normal bottom-up approach you outlined can’t work anymore. There’s no time, and too much money on the line.

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            If you wanted to actually transform the world with tech in a way it’s not just superficial, you’d create task forces that sit together with specialist in each field of medical, construction, logistics, finance etc. give them 2 years to build prototypes and action plans.

            I suspect they tried that, but specialists expect to be paid for their time, and expect their work to benefit the planet. Both seem to be hard stop deal breakers for the modern tech bro.

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      Yeah the thing that pro-ai zealots don’t get is that if they’re right and AI is the future, then being left behind is ultimately not up to you. The point of AI is to leave workers behind. Embracing it doesn’t do anything to save you, it just accelerates the end of your own job.

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    Yet somehow, Facebook still managed to transfer an eye watering $50bn to capitalists in 2025 through dividends and buybacks. That is the equivalent of $633,639/employee. Tech workers need to unionize!

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    More programmers for tech co-ops and open-source projects.

    I mean sure, it won’t cover these people’s mortgages or probably even healthcare. That sucks, it really does. But let’s starve big tech of the expertise that they so obviously disdain, and contribute our time and energy to building better alternatives.

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    i have “being laid off” PTSD or something because every time i see a headline like this i say FUCK

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    What is the actual issue with these layoffs? Why do they always get spammed around and everyone gets mad. Big companies churn employees whats the problem? Do we need to celebrate when they hire 10% back in the next month.

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      In America, your life is very much dependent on your job. Your healthcare is intrinsically tied to it, we have little to no safety nets protecting you when you lose it, and yet it’s a country with little to no employee protection laws. We’re in the middle of a recession and there aren’t enough jobs for everyone. They will not be hiring 10% back next month. At best these employees with their good credentials will got other jobs in the tech sector pushing out 10,000 other tech workers. People will go hungry, people will not be able to get medicine they need to survive.

      It used to be that layoffs were something companies did as an emergency last resort. Now people’s livelihoods are cast aside as casually as you would pick a new color to paint the office walls.

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        These are workers in an industry where these work patterns are common, they make far above average wage and can work from anywhere in the world. Their job mobility is very high so why feel sorry for them? This isnt the same as the only steel mill in town laying off 1000 workers.

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          Mobility is not high when every other company in the market does this regularly. People that just started families, moved their lives, have healthcare needs will see significant negative impact. These actions are a direct transfer of wealth from working class people to already incomprehensibly wealthy shareholders. And what’s more the actions are designed to keep people happy with what they have and reduce wages and wage growth for those that aren’t impacted. Shareholders are incentivizing immoral acts against the working class and using tech corporations to do so.

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          These work patterns are becoming common and that’s precisely the problem.

          This industry is also very vast and doesn’t just include the big tech companies. When all the big tech companies are doing layoffs like this there is no lateral or upward mobility. Many of these employees move downwards pushing out plenty of employees without the high salaries and mobilities. Some of those less mobile employees leave the industry entirely and flood others affecting those as well.

          The idea that these layoffs affect only the people laid off is not accurate. 10,000 fewer jobs means 10,000 fewer jobs. In a country that does not have enough jobs for everyone who is willing and able to work, every lob lost is a net negative for an entire industry. When this continues year over year it’s not just the big tech sycophants who are negatively affected. This shit rolls downhill to every already underpaid high school IT employee.

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            becoming? They have been common for the past 25 years.

            10,000 fewer jobs means 10,000 fewer jobs

            No because the reporting is only on the layoffs they wont cover the hiring that will happen next month. These tech companies dont lay off people then operate with 10,000 less staff. Meta’s employee count has increased every year except the year after covid.

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                you think by the end of the year Meta will have 10,000 less employees than it did at the start? I dont think thats likely. They will either increase employee count or slightly reduce due to how cooked the economy is but they will hire back a majority of those 10,000 jobs.

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                  you think by the end of the year Meta will have 10,000 less employees than it did at the start?

                  No, I think it will have even less.

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          It was not common until about 3-4 years ago. For years, if you got hired, you were pretty much golden, as long as you were good at the job.

          Also, the job market is getting rougher and rougher. Just yesterday I read a comment from someone who said they’d been in the industry for 15 years and it’s never been this bad. And another from someone who said they’d been unemployed for 18 months now.

          These layoffs are being done to manipulate stock prices and signal that “we’re really great at using AI so we don’t need to pay humans anymore”. These are actual human beings as pawns in the games of capital. Doesn’t matter how much you’re earning for the company, they need you gone so they can say they’re closer to being a human-free company.

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      I hope someone asks you that next time you lose your job. It’s only 8,000 people who’s lives have been turned upsidedown, you have the emotional capacity of a CEO.

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        These people work at Meta, they can get another job. These arent low mobility workers.

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          I hope someone points that out to you next time you lose your job. Your lack of empathy is gross

          you have the emotional capacity of a CEO.

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            So people should be forever employed? What kind of childish world view is this

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              In sane parts of the world, layoffs need to be justified. E.g getting rid of a department that wasn’t profitable and there’s literally no other vacancies to fill in the company with the same people, or cutting costs to stay in business.

              Meta doesn’t seem to be close to closing down. Their employee count isn’t really reducing much, they’re just virtue signaling AI usage by laying people off. Where I come from, it would be illegal to lay someone off and not hire them back when you’re hiring again for a similar role, because layoffs are ONLY for positions being closed permanently. Otherwise it’s a firing, and you also need justification for firing (and it’s an entirely different kind of justification).

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                yes but America is not a sane part of the world and its always operated like this. To be surprised this is happening in a country where this is normal is odd. Meta’s employee count grows every year(except 1 year after covid)

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        not really, different projects require different things. You want to do a big hire of X skilled professional then when its done you can get rid of them and get they Y skilled professional required for the next project. Thats better than trying to transfer them over.