People shamed and ordered to leave shops after being misidentified then ‘given no help’ to investigate verdicts
Camera surveillance is simply no longer compatible with use in spaces, structurally inviting the general public, due to advances in technology. You cannot physically limit what’s being captured by an image sensor: it captures everything, and filtering (including removable masking) is only able to happen after collection. Which could also mean the data itself, or derivatives thereof, may be stored indefinitely; and could, at any time in the future, be used as evidence against members of society.
The only meaningful strategy to prohibit this, is to physically remove these surveillance systems: so personal data isn’t collected to begin with. Don’t even get me started, about the GDPR supposedly protecting citizens against this type of surveillance: it pushed for modernization of the systems, legitimized the “collect but protect” approach, created physical backdoors for the government to get ahold personal data being collected, and incentivized member states to piggy bank off of it.
But I’m glad the cracks are beginning to surface, and ordinary folks starting to grow uncomfortable around modern camera surveillance too, because that’s the only reasonable response to it.
No no no.
This is fine.
Because you have nothing to worry about if you’ve done nothing wrong and have nothing to hide.
Because mass surveillance apparati are never wrong, and no one ever uses them improperly.
Therefore, everyone who disagrees with me is a paranoid nutjob.
^^^ fucking braindead morons for at least the last 20 years ^^^
I suspect the claimed “99.98% accuracy” is counting out of all faces scanned, which is a bullshit way to make the tech look good. Most faces are not marked as shoplifters in the database. A system that literally does nothing would probably still have greater than 99% accuracy.
What we really want to know is what percentage of reported matches are accurate, and I bet it isn’t anywhere near 99%.
I had to try to educate sales people what such numbers actually mean.
With fingerprint readers, there are false positives (your finger is accepted, although it should not), and false negatives (your finger gets rejected although it should accept). The chances for both look small, but if you have 700+ people in the system, the chance of a random person to be accepted as one of the 700 is about bigger than 50%. And there was a big chance for any valid user to be logged in as someone else.
Pretty much this. A 0.02% error margin when there are tens of thousands of visitors per year, means it’s almost guaranteed to have errors.
99.9% ^700 = 49.6% chance of no errors occurring.
99.98% ^3466 = 50% chance of no errors occurring.
99.98% ^23000 = 1% chance of no errors occurring.Pretty much that. The customer wanted to use it for identification and authentification in one go, with lenience for dirty and injured fingers on top.
Fingerprints as username??
Yes, it was intended to be used for identification and authentification in one go. For something between 500 to 700 people, and the customer wanted it to work with dirty or injured fingers, too, so the readers would have to be extraordinarily lenient.
My guess is that the customer watched too many movies.
The article notes (along with names of shops—vote with your money, if you’re in the UK), that the ID system being used has the usual racial bias (has a hard time with anyone who isn’t white) and also a gender bias (has an easier time IDing men). And that the provider was careful not to mention this until after people started complaining.
I am not going to suggest, encourage, applaud and condone arson as a protest, because that is illegal.
That’s a possible life sentence if you get caught. Assuming there’s even a single person in the building.
Isn’t falsely accusing a person of theft in public Slander?
Reminds me of the US No Fly List.
No idea how your name gets on there. Impossible to remove. Every attempt to fly is a humiliation
The list of people so dangerous they can’t be allowed to fly, but too innocent to arrest.
But don’t worry social credit systems where you’re barred from public transport is so dystopian only the Chinese do it.
This only way this is true is because we barely have any public transportation in America anymore.
You can lose your DL in the US very easily
On the one hand, right to refuse business. On the other hand…
Soon on TERF Island:
They’re gonna have AI cameras to detect if you “went to the right gender bathroom”, and if AI decrees that you’ve entered the wrong one, they’ll flag you as a “sex offender”, then activate the terminators posted at the store to “eliminate sex offenders”
Funny how even the things “AI” is okay at (pattern matching within a certain margin of error) still can’t be used properly.
Those using it don’t care if they get false positives, so it’s working as far as they’re concerned.
To them it’s more trouble to actually double check or review hits then to just give people a blanket ban if they might could possibly be shoplifters.
Yeah someone was explaining how false positives specifically within the context of early markers of pancreatic cancer are actually not much of a concern.
deleted by creator
