I find this move concerning, and wish that the Founder had looked for a new CEO that shared his values rather than a Private Equity and Mergers Expert.
Furthermore, the change to the GRIT motto is worrying. Trust is useless without Transparency when it comes to code and security.
Why the fuck does everything that’s good turn to shit? This world sucks. This timeline sucks.
it’s all motivated by the accumulation of wealth = capitalism
It’s not a timeline. It’s just the world we keep making. The only one.
VC ruins everything
This is literally a product where a hobbyist tried to fix a niche, and now the VCs arrive.
reading this as someone who migrated the rest of the household to Bitwarden literally yesterday: 😒
It took me years after the lastpass breach to get my wife and 1/3 of my kids to switch to Bitwarden. I am not looking to having to migrate again.
but exporting is easy with bitwarden. this is annoying. after the age check laws, i have been moving off big companies because it will be bad snd i know my migration will take a bit. i finalized bitwarden a couple weeks ago and was just about to assist my family.
i would not be as upset if ram and harddtives didnt cost a mortgage right now.
It does not matter how easy exporting is, the difficulty is going someone who really does not understand why they should be using a password locker to use one, much less change to a different one.
What do you use it for?
passwords and secure notes of recovery codes and the like
1Password took investor funding, moved to subscription and focusing on corporate.
Bitwarden heading the same way. Great…
Luckily BW is open source, and VaultWarden exists. If they enshitify, all it takes is a fork of the browser extensions and apps with a rebrand.
Yeah, this here is exactly the reason why anytime I have to migrate from any piece of software I’m migrating to something open source and standards compliant.
Why does every good thing always have to go to shit. Sigh.
because capitalism
hope this does not fuck up my vaultwarden hosting.
Narrator: …but it did.
I’m amazed that vaultwarden has maintained such fantastic compatibility with bitwarden. …but all it takes is one api with an obfuscated “signed request” to bring it all down.
Vaultwarden has a backend encrypted db and web server, with it’s own API. The bitwarden clients are currently opensource so there could be a fork for the browser extension, and desktop client. Unlike 1Password, there is a good opensource base.
Same
They took the VC money
They all do, eventually.
Id take it, too.
People need to understand that if they wait for everyone to do the right thing we are all going to be fucked.
I wonder how much the new choice of CEO was up to the founder versus the venture capital investors. I’m assuming the investors had the main input.
And this is why every time a tech company raises venture capitalist funding, it’s almost inevitably on the road to enshittification, as the ones holding the pursestrings only care about what profit they can extract from the company over the next few years.
It needs a conscious effort from companies that are small but successful to stay that way, to keep their size and business model sustainable, and their mission connected to the interests of their users. From the top of my head I know Obsidian does it this way (fully user-funded), but there are probably others too.
Update: After publication, an employee on the Bitwarden subreddit said that “Always free” had been restored on its pricing page, calling it an “oversight” by the marketing team. The product page for Bitwarden’s personal password manager remains unchanged.
Oversight
They got community checked and backtracked hard… I have always endorsed bitwarden but that is becoming worrisome. :(
Yeah, you know those marketing team people. They totally went out of their way to make more work for themselves to change it with I’m sure zero instructions from higher up to do so.
Getting hard to endorse anyone you don’t personally know at this point.
We’re sorry we got caught
Enshitification marches on.
Well, it was fun while it lasted, lol.
ugh… This is worrying.
All good things come to an end at some point I guess.
Worry sounds like concern for something bad that might happen. I think “dread” is what you’re looking for.
Was good while it lasted. Thanks for getting me off LastPass. See ya
Ah for fuck’s sake. Seems like every month I have to change something because some fucking company starts getting a taste for greed via data sucking. I’m goddamn sick of it.
Enshitification
That’s why you use open source alternatives everywhere :) just replace one at a time when the company fails
Start using open source then
Unprompted snark from an .ml user, how surprising. I am a bigger cheerleader for open source than any of my friends or family. It’s the only real path to stay free of corporate influence, greed, and spying (in regards to software). Live free or die.
Bitwarden is, by definition, open source. It has been since I started using it ~6 years ago. I’m tired of literally everything having the potential for enshittification. Nothing is safe in the long run, not even volunteer-run projects. If you think your favorite project is safe because of some “core ethos” or “guiding principles”, you’re just drinking the kool-aid. As long as we exist under capitalism, anything under the sun can be enshittified.
I will never give up, even if things seem even more dire than they are now. But I’m tired of having to maintain constant vigilance.
I knew trouble was brewing when they started adding the little corporate cute waving graphics and stuff to the UI. Glad I already migrated away
