But keeping a jet aircraft from another nation is totally ok… got it :)
I can assure you FBI scanned it for secret cameras.
I feel like it is entirely plausible to miss something when scanning, I believe it is extremely plausible to miss something when scanning an entire jet aircraft, regardless of the skills of the personnel involved.
I mean “The Thing” wasn’t detected for seven years. It’s always possible to miss a listening device.
I feel like I had to have heard of this device before, but that article was a fascinating read - thank you!
I think people still think of China as a second tier sometimes, but from what I have seen their technology is likely at least equal to ours, and I would imagine the West and China both surpass each other in different technological categories.
Lol China is far superior to our tech. They get to manufacture everything we design. Then get to ponder on improvements. Not to mention their “students” in all our universities.
By “the FBI scanned”, they probably mean “We told Kash Patel that there was a six pack of Miller hidden somewhere in the plane and let him have at it.”
Right? I was like “Faith in the FBI? Someone didn’t watch the Mens Hockey gold medal match…”
A jet has multiple integrated digital systems meaning it would be super easy to hide things within the wiring or on circuit boards, which is exactly what security professionals said when they accepted the plane - it could never be made truly safe without being gutted - but they didn’t listen.
Like that’s enough lol.
Sounds like the US use gifts, pins and burner phones to spy on foreign governments
I mean, there is a history of a lot of nations doing this.
My brother-in-law traveled a lot for work, from the early nineties, to the 20-teens.
He visited, China, Russia, the U.S., India, all over Southeast Asia, Australia. Maybe South America, but not sure. Anyway, the point is he visited a lot of places, and the big ones fairly routinely. China is the only country, where his company had a whole list of requirements. He had to leave his personal phone, any personal electronics, and his work laptop at home. (They provided him a phone and laptop that would immediately be turned over once he returned and he could NOT log onto the company VPN with the laptop/phone they gave him and had to have his work email forwarded. )
They gave him money to buy a new suit before he went over there and to replace his luggage and clothes when he came back, because it was all discarded.
He said it was not so much government spying but industrial espionage. And he just worked in human resources.
I was in the Navy and visited Hong Kong a couple of times and they never said boo to me outside of the usual, “Loose lips sink ships.” spiel we got at every port.
They let him take his phone to Russia, but they did made him take a different work laptop, but that laptop could access the company VPN. He said there is was more about the government spying. I did not visit any Russian port while in the Navy.
My past few employers have all had similar policies, it’s common in tech. I cannot take any company equipment over the Chinese border and we are strongly discouraged against bringing any personal equipment. The company has special burner laptops and phones for the few cases where we actually need a business trip to China.
Wow that sounds pretty Draconian. I would not travel without a personal phone, after all the trip is not 100% work time. I’d bring a personal burner, not my real phone, but I’d bring something. I don’t want my work to listen in on all personal comms while I’m there. I mean if they want me to leave a personal device in the hotel ok but not bringing it at all?
And throwing my luggage and clothes away? Over my dead body.
Of course with any work issued stuff they can do whatever they want. But not my personal things.
I would really refuse a trip under such conditions, or refuse the conditions themselves.
He got a personal burner as well.
He bought new luggage and clothes for the trip, knowing they would be paid for and discarded. He said it wasn’t that big a deal.
It’s not like they surprised him on the way back, telling him to throw his stuff away.
Yeah clothes for me are very personal, I only wear certain fabrics (cotton T-shirts).
But I mean I would never accept that to begin with. I would just not go on the trip.
Our company has a significant number of employees inside China anyway so it would just be theater, if they want in they will get in.
That’s well known. We even did that with the original iPod back in the day.
The Chinese probably gave them normal gifts, pins, and phones because why waste money on tech when top secret files are stored in the bathroom and POTUS tweets sensitive information?
probably want his launch codes.
Yeah right. The CCP is probably the most decitful government in the world. As bad as the US government is (and it is) the CCP follows through with nothing. I thought it was pretty funny that they had American flags all over, it’s illegal every other day if the year.
You’re losing and you know it
Throw away air force one and the president while you are at it.
Uh duh? Pretty normal procedure when visiting foreign governments.
However the problem isn’t the support staff, it’s the moron leaders that are the problem. I bet 100 bucks that Trump kept at least a gift that contains a spy equipment.
Him? Keep gifts that almost certainly contain spy equipment? He’d never do that. Certainly not giant, 747 sized ones.
MAGA’s dear leader is the spy equipment
Didn’t one of the Clintons do just that, too?
I have $20 that says Drumpf keeps some tacky piece of shit with a bug in it
Throw Away = give them all to Trump
Like parents “throwing away” unhealthy Halloween candy.
Yah… Duh… Thats how espionage works…
China would tell their diplomats to do the same returning from the US.
Ironic . . as I use a burner phone when traveling to the USA.
I know people are reacting like its expected anyway because of the amount of espionage that goes on, but this is honestly more of a cold war era tactic.
Why would China risk souring relations right after a major diplomatic trip with some throw away gadgets that any competent military security would find immediately and proceed to document it?
China can just get that high level information via a million other ways including Trump himself. They probably have a truthsocial scrapper that automatically tells them exactly what Trump is gonna do next by deciphering his insane posts lol.
Why throw them away?
Good counterintelligence would be to get as many as possible and reverse engineer them.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we fired everybody who could do that.
But otherwise it was a great trip!
What about the exclusive one off Trump phone? Does Trump have to throw that away too?
Guess what I would do if I was a (foreign) guest of importance to any US president?
And if I was visiting Trump, I would desinfect ASAP, too.
burn your clothes too…and don’t forget to cleanse your intestines…you never know :D oh oh and screening for the sexually transmitted spyware.
