Good
Fuck the US and their bullshit capitalism. Do not trust them. They are the enemy, which feels wild to say but we’ve long memories, and education, and we’ve seen this before.
I’m American and the US is my enemy too
This is so great to hear. It would be great if I could stop seeing the EU capitulate to Orange on the news. From the perspective of American citizens it is very annoying, and you will ingratiate yourselves to us by pushing back against him.
It’s probably a tricky balancing act for EU leaders. On the one hand they want to quietly step away from the US, on the other they are well aware that one of his tantrums could start WWIII.
They’re in that situation when you wind up talking to the violent lunatic at a party and you are quietly trying to remove yourself without flipping their switch.
We are probably already there but they just won’t say… all quiet on the western front…
I thought you were talking about Orange the Telco, and I thought, “shit, what did orange do this time” lol!
I find it so stupid that countries would outsource important stuff to any other country. You never know what the future holds.
Since the article is in Dutch, let me try to provide a little extra context:
- It’s not actually the company that runs DigiD, that’s Logius, who is part of the ministry of the interior.
- It’s about the cloud-hosting company that DigiD runs on. The DigiD code was open sourced, though it looks like the GitHub repository is now archived (https://github.com/MinBZK/woo-besluit-broncode-digid-app)
- It really is used for everything related to authentication with government services. Doing your taxes, scheduling an appointment with the city government for <insert anything>, scheduling a doctors appointment, getting a prescription refilled, on and on.
One wonders why the application “used for everything related to authentication with government services” runs on a Private Sector cloud.
I mean, it’s not as if a Digital Cloud is any more than a bunch of servers running somewhere with a direct connection to the Internet.
Then again, this is The Netherlands, which is has been ruled by a very Neoliberal right-wing party (in various coalitions) for over a decade so it makes sense that the government there would have even essential software for interacting with Public Services be operated by the Private Sector.
One wonders why the application “used for everything related to authentication with government services” runs on a Private Sector cloud.
I read (no citation here, I forget where I saw this now) a while back somebody involved saying that their procurement policies require they accept the lowest bid tended, as long as its legally submitted and not obviously a scam.
So yes, typical neo-liberal right-wing mentality is very much at fault I suspect.
Scheduling a doctor’s appointment and getting a prescription refilled? I’ve never used my DigiD for that, nor do I think it’s even an option here; it’s pretty much all telephone. And as for the source code, only part of the source code was published (as a result of ‘Wet Open Overheid verzoek’: a request for transparency); and I believe they’re migrating from Github to code.overheid.nl.
Actually it is used. My doctor does it but still has the option with a regular account.
Ah okay, so you have some sort of online portal for you doctor’s office; where you can either log in using your DigiD or a regular account? That would make sense for a digitally managed system.
Helaas kunt u niet inloggen
I don’t know Dutch but I choose to believe this says “hey cunt youre not logged in”
‘U kunt’ is a valid Dutch sentence
So is ‘Dank u’ , which is mildly amusing in English, but quite sordid in french (it’s pronounced similar to ‘dans cul’ which means ‘in the ass’)
The first would be considered incomplete, and lead most to ask: “U kunt … wat?” (“You can do … what?”). “U kunt het” as “You (formal) can do it” would sound like “You removed head” but with a thick Dutch accent haha
Something like “We couldn’t log you in” I think
That’s correct
It’s incredible how easy Dutch is to understand for a German lol
Crazy, like they’re related or something.
I speak Dutch and this is entirely correct.
basically
If it was a conversation, you’d probably finish the sentence with “hoor”
“You’re not logged in, hoor”
I’m trying to learn it but some times my teacher saying things like this make it hard.
Also people just pointing somewhere and saying “kijk” (look) makes me really think we’re out minority-spotting.
G O O D
Turns out the company in questioned already was bought by a UK company, so already isn’t even Dutch (or even EU anymore). But at least it’s not American (the concern is that American laws potentially give the American government a lot of access to the Dutch citizen data). Companies owned by companies. It gets complicated.
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As an American I love this!
Finally some good news
And they call themselves Capitalist.












