• Sailor Anarres@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    Hate these bills sweeping the world disguising what are essentially anti privacy pro surveillance laws as “child protection”.

    • yes_this_time@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      How is it surveillance? Just don’t give them your ID or use the platform, they have negative value anyway.

      My understanding is that a ban is not the desired goal, more an ‘emergency break’ while other regulatory means catch up.

  • TheMuffinMan@piefed.world
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    2 months ago

    I grew up with the Internet of the noughties and saw some screwed up stuff. That should have been on my parents, but I turned out okay anyway.

    Canada’s just the latest to join the mass surveillance club.

    • corey931@lemmy.wtf
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      2 months ago

      Social media ain’t the same breed though. They’re advertising platforms who don’t give a shit about anyone or anything but money. And they make more than companies generating real value. TikTok shows misogyny and violence within half an hour and TikTok is totally fine showing this for as long as they make money with it. Just like Insta and the rest. Back then with MySpace, etc the algorithms weren’t exactly great at keeping us addicted. At some point we simply logged off and didn’t come back. It’s not the same thing

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        2 months ago

        I actually totally agree with this; I just think the solution is holding these companies to account rather than forcing all users to submit very personal identification.

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          2 months ago

          Yeah, I’d love to see that too. I just see way too little of that happening. By the time they get regulated or held accountable the damage has been done and all they need to do is pay a fine that’s smaller than what they made. Malicious compliance la dee da. In California I think literally is a law that lets companies can buy their way out of anything violation of the law. Basically legalized corruption I guess

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      2 months ago

      In protest, every site should have a lemon party with 2 bathtub girls using one cup while riding a goatse as their only page.

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    2 months ago

    While social media is age-gated by the bill, AI chatbot services won’t be. “Chatbots are not as well-studied as the harm caused by social media  platforms,” Miller said during the press conference announcing the bill. “They don’t have the same social role.” With that said, the Safe Social Media Act also includes language around “AI chatbot services,” seemingly in response to OpenAI’s handling of the Tumbler Ridge shooting. As part of the bill, AI platforms are expected to mitigate the risk of chatbots “communicating harmful content” and engaging in harmful behavior, while also introducing “emergency measures” for dealing with crisis situations.

    Seems like we’re seeing that this isn’t just about consumer surveillance but also pushing another platform

  • RainbowBlite@piefed.ca
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    2 months ago

    Why do we need a separate bill for social media companies to remove content that sexually victimizes children? Existing laws would have worked, if they had been enforced.

    Also, not regulating AI chatbot use for children because it hasn’t been studied yet is moronic. It is absolutely obvious that AI has serious cognitive impacts on adults. This generation doesn’t have any chance.

  • masterspace@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    Social media needs regulation for everyone, and I’m deeply concerned about the impact of ID verification on the open web, but at the same time, given the clear harms, it’s hard to argue with people attempting some form of regulation, even if limited and imperfect.