• BallShapedMan@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    This is awesome! I can’t wait to read the articles of how this goes wrong for dumbasses who use it. Should be fun!

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      totally going to happen. anyone who makes posts about how they got screwed should be met with laughter. nothing less. yes I’m saying blame the victim.

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        I could not agree more. 5 years ago I would have been entirely against “blaming the victim” because there wasn’t that much information on how corporations were fucking everyone over, so only the paranoid (like some of us here) were already either taking action or looking into ways to take action.

        However, today nobody has an excuse to keep getting fucked claiming “I didn’t know”. The information on all the bullshit these corporations pull on customers is more abundant than air, yet people choose to keep giving them money.

        So, yeah, I’ll be LMAO watching this unfold.

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          there wasn’t that much information on how corporations were fucking everyone over,

          I’m sorry, what? Did you think the entire genre of corporate dystopia fiction, like Brazil or Neuromancer, was just a fabrication ungrounded in reality for decades? It’s been open class war in the god damn streets.

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    It will take time for people to fully trust AI agents to do their shopping, Forestell acknowledged. At first, Visa expects the majority of transactions to still loop in humans, with AI agents sending a notification for consumers to approve the actual purchase.

    “Now, imagine you do that a thousand times over the course of some period of time,” he said. “And then your agent says, ‘Do you want me to just not check?’”

    This is some capitalist hellscape shit when we’re being driven to hand over consumerism even wtf. Really scraping the bottom of the proverbial moral barrel fighting for this

  • BeBopALouie@lemmy.ca
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    Bill for a new car arrives in your email. ChatGPT says I figured it was time for you to get a new car. Bank says can’t return it as it’s a legit purchase from your account.

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    VISA: “We wont let adults engage in consensual adult activities via our payment network becuase some religious nutjob somewhere might complain about it, but we’re gonna hand over our network to AI so it can spend all your and our money because we’re customer first”

    also just a reminder there was a big password breach with instagram/meta/whatever because people asked an AI agent to give them the passwords for famous peoples accounts.

    I cant wait for something similar happening on VISA, someone prompt bombing to get the AI to charge a random account and people melting down as 10s of thousands of dollars of charges appear out of no where.

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      also just a reminder there was a big password breach with instagram/meta/whatever because people asked an AI agent to give them the passwords for famous peoples accounts.

      That’s misleading, accounts have been taken over but passwords have not been leaked (how would that even be possible?)

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        They got the ai agent to send the password reset onetime code to a new address that they supplied through the chat.

        Effectively hijacking the pw reset and its safeguard. The users password did not need to be known

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      You can’t buy weed with a Visa card, either, even in places where it’s legal.

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        I buy weed with a Visa card all the time.

        Do you mean you can’t buy weed in places where it’s been only decriminalized but not fully legalized? Decriminalized means it’s still illegal but the government just decided to stop enforcing the law. It’s not actually the same as legalization, and yeah it results in all kinds of stupid situations. And yeah, a big company isn’t going to engage in something that’s technically illegal even if the law won’t be enforced.

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          No I mean fully legalized states. No bank in the US will work with a dispensary, so if you live here and are buying weed with one, it’s because they’re exploiting a loophole where you’re not buying weed with a Visa card, you’re “withdrawing cash”. Getting change in cash is a tell-tale sign that this is what they’re doing.

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            I’m pretty sure it’s still a federal crime in the US.

            Here in the True North Strong and Free, weed is legalized at all levels of government and I can confirm that I can indeed buy weed with a Visa card. I can even buy it online and have it delivered to my door by the postal service. That got me through the pandemic.

            Sorry your country kinda sucks about this, but it’s not really a credit card thing. CC companies suck for many reasons, but this isn’t one of them.

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      Lets get mastercard in on this as well and then we’re almost halfway to economic collapse

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    Visa is gonna hand over my bank details to a chatbot, but if I want to buy a game with anime tits Visa flips the fuck out and starts threatening platforms.

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    Payment integrations with AI is NOT a good idea. I still remember a few years back a controversy that happened with Amazon’s Alexa. Apparently, alexa speakers started ordering people dollhouses after hearing its name on TV. Yes ik ik you can disable purchases from amazon from the alexa app but by default, it was enabled.

    This article covers it all: https://www.theverge.com/2017/1/7/14200210/amazon-alexa-tech-news-anchor-order-dollhouse

    This is the main part

    At the end of the story, Anchor Jim Patton remarked: “I love the little girl, saying ‘Alexa ordered me a dollhouse,’” According to CW6 News, Echo owners who were watching the broadcast found that the remark triggered orders on their own devices.

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      Having Alexa automatically order stuff is really insane. Like it’s just going to buy stuff without checking the prices and and comparing products.

      But I suppose it makes sense to Jeff Bezos who doesn’t care about the price of anything and has a human assistant that checks product reviews and such to make sure their boss gets a good product. So of course everyone will want to have a crappier version of what billionaires have and no one cares about the price of the things they buy, right?

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    People must be so time poor that this seems a good idea. Having stuff arrive at the door that I didn’t know I wanted and balancing the books afterwards seem like new mystery experience awaiting.

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    AI can’t even answer basic questions correctly most of the time or handle basic searches for products, how on earth is it supposed to buy something?

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      I imagine for visa it doesn’t matter if it buys the correct item, all it matters is that it starts making loads of transactions.

      Will be interesting when the scammers figure out how to get it to buy something that a human would obviously notice to be a scam.

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    Of the list of things I would never do. Giving an AI my credit card to shop for me is pretty near the top of the list.

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    Man, chatGPT is being blamed for school shootings and suicide already. Imagine if it bought the shit you needed to follow through on your behalf?

    This is seriously going to fuck shit up.

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      We know this, but they’re gambling on current children to be raised in this world and not know any different.

      Teach them different.

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    Ah. Lovely. I’ll just go set the "its been x days since ‘ai fanaticism’ made me throw up a little bit " back to zero.