cross-posted from: https://lemmy.today/post/54923731
Some accounts are deleting their posts after a few downvotes. It’s devastating on communities like c/asklemmy.
Lemmy doesn’t track an account’s karma like reddit. So, all downvotes will be isolated to your post or comment and won’t affect your account—unless you wrote something truly horrible.
Remember lemmy is a community effort. Deleting a post also removes all comments on it. So you are not only robbing the effort others put in, you are actively removing knowledge from the fediverse. Others won’t be able to find it through search and lemmy will seem lonelier than it already is.
Deleting a post because it got downvotes? Who are these babies who can’t take people not liking them?
I will say in their defense that some people delete their comments/posts not because they care about “karma” but because they now feel they were wrong and are genuinely embarrassed or think that its continued presence is just an annoyance to other people.
That said, imo, unless you realize you’ve broken a rule in posting it or literally just posted by accident, it’s healthier for yourself and the community to simply e.g. edit in a correction and a “mea culpa”, even if you continue to get dogpiled for it.
Everyone’s presence is annoying. That’s called being human.
Is there no one in your life whose presence you enjoy?
All the time? Fuck no. Hell, my wife and I love each other in part because we like time alone.
That’s an impossible standard to achieve. Best one can do is become neutral, whatever benefits they bring balances out the burden of dealing with them.
Not who you’re replying to, but…nope.
I delete them when I don’t have the energy to argue with people online about things. They can be the one terminally online. I’m not chasing them down that rabbit hole. Especially when you get comment after comment replying to you and you know they don’t want to argue in good faith and you’re just signing up to get cyber bullied by a brick wall.
I have, in the several years I’ve been here, deleted only a handful of comments - pretty much exclusively as a result of me being in a terrible mood and/or too drunk and commenting something very stupid or dickish, then reading it the next morning and going “what the fuck was I doing 🤦♂️”. That is thankfully vanishingly rare for me lol
Sometimes down votes are a sign that you’re saying things people don’t want to hear or the right things but on a crazy instance, but sometimes down votes are a chance for self reflection where you have to ask yourself “Am I the asshole?” and in the latter case yeah I’m probably just going to delete it. No apologies though, I’m not looking to be a saint here.
Yeah like that time I commented on horshoe theory on a tankie sublemmy (honestly my fault. That’s like smoking next to the pump at a gas station) which really pissed off a lot of tankies lol.
It doesn’t even take that. Sometimes it just takes one opinion literally anywhere that one tankie sees that hurts their feelings, and they brigade away. It’s totally random. I’ve enjoyed them doing that on shitposts and memes on sub’s totally unrelated to .ml madness.
It also makes me think that there’s only actually like 10 or 20 tankies that each cycle through 30 accounts each, and one guy in Beijing that runs the “Propaganda: Other Platforms” desk coordinating of all. Or maybe that’s just a function of their groupthink. Hard to say.
I’m still new to Lemmy but yeah I’ve noticed that too. They show up anywhere they see stuff they don’t like.
What’s kind of fun is you can basically summon them by saying “Trotsky wouldn’t have been better than Stalin” three times in a mirror.
“Numbers, math, measures, and money were all independently invented my numerous civilizations because they are all usefull things.”
You didn’t consider how Russia/China would feel before commenting on .ml? Absolutely scandalous.
For more context, my comment was making fun of how both fascists and tankies will line people up against a wall and shoot them for being the out group.
The vitriol I experienced lead me to believe that if it wouldn’t have explicitly proved my point for me, they would have threatened to line me up against a wall and shoot me for being the outgroup lmao!
I mean, that’s a skill issue on your side.
Yeah I’m new here if it wasn’t obvious by my prior comment haha
As someone with social anxiety for some people seeing a large negative social response to something you said or did, even if just abstractly represented by a number, can be pretty distressing 🤷🏻♂️
I generally leave stuff up unless its misleading or something, but I can empathize with why someone would take it down
people not liking them
Half of lemmy:
The other day somebody asked me a question and I couldn’t be bothered to deal with them, but later on I decided to answer in earnest and deleted the previous response.
That’s so annoying
Have you seen the president, or met any of the millions of people who voted for him?
I’ve had discussions here with people that don’t want down votes, like in YouTube. There are instances that have them disabled.
All around you.
I want to prove I’m not a baby so please downvote this comment.
Edit: please stop you’re hurting my feelings
Downvote my comment, so I can share your pain. I promise I will spend at least five seconds caring.
Me too, go ahead - it doesn’t matter.
What matters is when people scan your post history and check why you were downvoted, given the context of the comment. The community here is smaller, so if you post consistently, you can actually build a meaningful organic reputation (that is: other user’s opinions of you). Karma doesn’t matter. What you post, and how you engage with other users does.
That’s one of fediverse’s most underused selling points. Karma farming is impossible here.
People delete their posts because they aren’t getting karma? That’s kinda sad.
I don’t think it’s just downvotes that are the reason posts are deleted. What’s being ignored, is what follows after downvotes. And that is, users being antagonistic over nuanced posts because the posts don’t contain the kind of brainrot-meme-lamejoke kind of content that is the norm.
And it is never a good feeling getting dogpiled on for absolutely no reason other than just not appeasing to whatever expectancy that is there. Additionally, when there isn’t enough activity aside from that, people can feel like ‘what’s the point?’ because they simply don’t have enough numbers of people engaging.
So this creates this discouragement within them to keep bothering.
I think this is probably the usual reason, rather than downvotes or whatever.
I was on reddit for 10 years and have been on lemmy for 3. I’m still not sure what this is really supposed to mean.
There is absolutely a “lifetime” karma score available for users, its just not centered in peoples bios like it is on lemmy. But it absolutely exists…
And if people want to go for high scores more power to them. Get that dopamine where you can queen.
I think their point is that on reddit, life time karma impacts the comment placement order; showing more comments from higher karma accounts. So I guess weirdos would delete comments that started to get negative votes on reddit so they weren’t seen as undesirable by the algorithm.
Also, aren’t there some subreddits that let you post if you have a certain amount of karma?
Where is it?
deleted by creator
Deleting a post doesn’t delete the comments, it just makes then undiscoverable/inaccessible. See https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/5525
Internet points aren’t the only reason people delete their posts/comments, though?
I think people should think seriously about deleting posts, but comments that don’t contribute to the discussion for whatever reason definitely have a shelf life.
And that’s aside from the old “a comment you made 10 years ago in another life gets you fired/cancelled” issues due to times changing, some shitlord quoting you out of context, etc, etc.
Just don’t post any real shit post in the sublemmy shitpost. That will get you a ban. Only picture of fairies and unicorns are allowed for these poor sensitive souls. I though lemmy would be more educated than reddit but unfortunately there are a small group of loud little bitches everywhere ruining the world for everyone else.
Is that why??? Oh man I was wondering why some people did that. Deleting their posts before I even have time to reply
Devastating? Jeez.
If you want to make a code change proposal, go ahead and make one. Otherwise, deletion is a feature offered to Lemmy users to use as they see fit. In fact some earlier (unrelated) proposals to speed up the software were rejected on the grounds that deletion is required to actually scrub the entry from the database, rather than simply making it inaccessible through the web. The scrubbing requirement may have been abandoned by now though.
I half remember a Lemmy client (
VoyagerJerboa?) with a user setting to automatically delete any post or comment that the user makes after 7 days or something. It had nothing to do with karma. I didn’t use that setting but it seemed reasonable to me. Lemmy is a discussion forum not a long term archive.I do like the idea of adding a wiki feature to Lemmy, to hold info of long term value to a community. Reddit already has something like that.**
On one hand, yes I find it irritating the way people treat their profile like some kind of extension of their personality and only post comments that will be well received.
One the other hand, I don’t really see much “knowledge” being removed from the fediverse. I don’t really understand how this behavior is devastating to communities.
I figured it was just instances culling old posts without a lot of engagement. I’ve had posts or comments that I’ve made get deleted and I didn’t request them
Don’t tell me what to do. Also, thanks for the info!
People actually cared about Reddit karma?
Maybe, I did for a while. Then I realized it didn’t really matter much in the end
