• iegod@lemmy.zip
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    2 months ago

    I keep saying it, you don’t need trucks. Maybe 1 out of a thousand. No, that isn’t you.

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      2 months ago

      And out of the people who do need them, vans are still a much better way to go for many of them. Vans which have at least a margainally better field of view with their short, sloped hoods.

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        2 months ago

        I have a large family and we drive a Transit 350 van.

        One day we needed to move a pair of beds and mattresses. We asked my father in law to help us since he has a F150. But it soon became apparent how much more we could fit in the van (with the two back seats removed) than we could fit in the truck, which couldn’t even fit one mattress in the truckbed without hanging out the back of the tailgate.

        From what I’ve seen my van is far superior to a truck in almost every need I’ve had. It can carry more stuff and it can do so in the rain keeping the cargo dry.

        The one thing a truck could do that my van can’t is pick up a scoop of mulch or gravel dumped from a loader.

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            2 months ago

            It officially fits fifteen. . . passengers. But normally we have two seats removed for cargo space. So, 13

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          My grandmother used to have a GMC Safari and yea, you’re absolutely right. If someone offered their truck for free to help me move I’d still pay for a U-Haul and I have less than zero money. They’re fucking worthless unless what you’re dragging around is a fifth-wheel so you literally need the special towing connection in the bed. Even the tow-trucks and stuff could be cab-over-engine but we don’t live in sanity land.

      • TurboWafflz@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        I know someone who insists that a pickup truck is more practical and her example is “you can lift a bookshelf over the side of a pickup truck instead of having to put it in the back like a van”. Apparently it’s more practical to lift something like 4 feet off the ground to the side of a pickup truck bed instead of like 1 foot to the floor of a van

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          2 months ago

          Similarly, I know people who bought F-150s for motorycles after going to the track only one time. We worked with actual consistent track-goers who each had vans. I used one of theirs to move my bike to the shop, and it was really funny watching them struggle with a small Ninja 250.

          People with truck brain are so fuckin’ stupid.

      • SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        2 months ago

        Or COE light trucks … I had a ride a while back in a Thaco Frontier -carries 1/2 ton, available in a crewcab, available in an off-road variant, and no visibility problems :-)

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          2 months ago

          There’s still an issue there with pedestrian safety, but it’s definitely better than an F-150 for sure. And maybe putting the driver up front will make them less inclined to be douchebags, too.

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      2 months ago

      And those who actually need them would be far better served by a VW Transporter with an aluminium bed.

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        2 months ago

        This is true, but there’s also a real lack of small pickups on the market. The fuckers just seem to be getting bigger and bigger. I used to have a Proton Jumbuck and it was really useful. Used it a lot for hauling wood and soil, it was small enough to get around and park easily in the city. I got rid of it eventually because it was so hard to find parts, shame, it was a handy little machine.

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          2 months ago

          It’s super frustrating because if you talk to anyone in a blue collar or rural area they all tell you they wish they still made small trucks. The manufacturers keep upping the size and cost adding shit nobody even asked for.

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            2 months ago

            the Ford Maverick has been on the market for 5 years now.

            The F150 sold 150K units, the F-series sold 830K units, last year.

            Folks overwhelmingly choose larger cars even when smaller options are available.

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              Whether rightly or wrongly, without a body on frame construction they were never really trying to sell that to traditional truck consumers.

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              A front wheel drive unibody “truck” is a slap in the face to the small trucks of old. A dent in the bed and you either total it or replace a rear tire ever 6 months do to unfixable alignment issues.

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                2 months ago

                right, so you buy a f150 instead and bitch there are no small trucks.

                lose lose

                you can go buy a used small body on frame truck. just expect to pay 30-40K for one, because they are highly desirable.

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                  2 months ago

                  You’re right it’s a lose lose. Personally I’m in the camp of not wasting money on a poorly thought out truck (maverick) and just go rent one for the 1 time in 5 years I’ll need a bed. I had a big truck that was just enough to tow my RV (lived full time to save money for a home) and now that I don’t live in an RV full time that bitch was sold. Hello New world of tiny EV. :)

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      2 months ago

      One of the guys in my police academy class would rib me for being less of a man because I didn’t drive a truck.

      A couple months later, he would go on to commit a felony on duty in front of a half dozen of his peers, including me. Nobody bothered to report him but me, even after we had a meeting about someone from a neighboring agency doing nearly the exact same thing that had been fired and arrested for it. Being a brand new deputy, I thought it was an integrity test so I was more than willing to report it. IA dropped the case.

      In hindsight, that was a clue I should’ve started applying elsewhere or quit, but I had three more years to put in before I wouldn’t have to pay back my academy pay, not to mention I naively trusted there was some other interpretation of what happened I hadn’t considered that the agency’s brass and legal team had; I wasn’t about to be the Apprentice telling the Master he’s full of shit.

      Years later they’d fire me for some complete BS. He still works there as far as I know, and the US Army promoted him to Captain.

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      2 months ago

      Tell that to every dipshit in the US South…light kit, brush guard, spray in liner, knotted tires, extra fancy box in the back, and a pristine winch. The dirtiest it’s ever gotten is when it rains

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      2 months ago

      The problem is, most people can only afford one vehicle (per adult, sometimes household) as such, they shop for something that will meet their edge cases and not their “90% of the times” cars. Annoyingly is also why you see hesitation for EVs.

      Rather than saying “I can just rent a truck for the 1 day a year I need haul something” (and most likely would be cheaper), they think “well what if I need to haul something? Then what?”

      Not saying that’s right, but edge cases are usually what drives their decisions.

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      2 months ago

      it isn’t about need. it’s about want.

      no doubt you own many things other people don’t think you need, but you think you do.

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    The best way to kill a person and get away with it in the US is to hit that person with a SUV when they are walking. A jury of lifted truck owners will return a not-guilty verdict. Even better if the target is on a bicycle, you’ll get a pat on the back by the judge.

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      2 months ago

      Doubly so if they’re a toddler.

      Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m off to protest at an abortion clinic because killing children is immoral when a woman does it.

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      It’s just such a fucking constant thing everywhere online, anything about America is just written like it’s a worldwide thing because most Americans need to be told that the rest of the world exists for their broken brains to remember that.
      It’s so fucking tiring just seeing the never ending “here’s a thing” that’s very specifically about the US but posted everywhere and never titled or talked about like it’s a US specific thing.
      It’s not just titles either, it’s the articles those posts link to, the videos, the everything all the way that not a single person thought “oh, this is US specific and should probably be shared as such”.

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    2 months ago

    I have a F150 I use as a farm truck, and an old samurai. (The little 4x4, not the feudal warrior) The samurai is lifted and has larger tires on it, and the hood is still still only about waist-high. Much lower than the F150’s hood which is almost chest high. (Im 6ft tall, that’s ~183cm)

    The F150 is honestly not very useful for hauling, because the sides of the bed are armpit high. Heavy things must be lifted a few feet to get up on the tailgate when its open. Most of the time anymore I use the samurai to pick up things like animal feed or fertilizer or other heavy bags of stuff, because it won’t get stuck in the yard like the truck will, and its just more fun to drive, all 65 horsepower of it.

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    2 months ago

    I wanna vomit especially when I see carolina squatted pick up trucks or really any pick up truck that isn’t actually used for their original purpose.

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    2 months ago

    Whoever wrote this headline has a poor grasp on both mathematics and the English language.

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    No surprises there. They’re more difficult to drive and have bigger blind spots. Yet, Americans love them even when they don’t need the added space.

    Literally the only thing I want from modern vehicles is blind spot cameras. And you could argue that’s not particularly modern since they’ve been available for over a decade.

    Otherwise, today’s new vehicles are privacy dystopias and it’s becoming quite difficult to find a decent sedan for a midrange price. I have no interest in light trucks or SUVs.

    In short, we’ll be sticking with my ICE 2012 Toyota Avalon and 2015 BMW until they stop running. I would like to buy an EV to pair with our solar panels and insulate myself from the whims of the bitch baby in the White House.

    But I think I basically can’t do that without giving up my privacy.

    Everything sucks.

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    not only that alot of truck drivers are drunk , almost everytime one almost hits you, can see the shitface drunk.

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    I wonder what the front collision/auto braking feature will do to this trend. Hopefully it’ll erase it. Isnt it mandatory on US cars made after X date now?

    This is probably caused by a combination of big vehicles and distracted driving (including smartphones and infotainment).

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        So in the course of seventeen years (since 2009), fewer than twice the number of people have been killed than in 2009 alone? That’s either a massive improvement, or something terrible was happening in 2009.

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            No, the problem is that I can actually read.

            “Since 2009” would refer to the span of seventeen years since 2009.

            75% more implies an increase of 75% (meaning a total of 175%, equivalent to 1.75×, or just shy of 2×) over some other quantity.

            What is that other quantity? Surely not the deaths just in the year 2009. Is it the seventeen years prior to 2009? Something else? The article never appears to actually specify.

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              Mate, the article links to the study, rather than be pedantic about the title you could read the study and figure out how they did the math yourself.

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              No, the problem is you’re taking a very niche stance in service of an interpretation of an ambiguous title that probably meant something entirely different, presumably because you enjoy a fight?

              Everyone else but you went with the “probably” instead of this war path you’re on against the person who wrote the title for not being clear enough.

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                I’m asking what’s being compared. It’s unclear and not specified. I don’t want to make a poor assumption. That is all. Why are you offended by that? What are you imagining I’m asking?

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                  As I said, we all know it’s unclear, but the rest of us made a reasonable conclusion as to what they meant.

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                Yes, it does. X + (75% × X) = (100% × X) + (75% × X) = (100% + 75%) × X = 175% × X

                If you started with $100, and ended up with 75% more, how much money would you have ended up with?

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    Except they’re not. Here in the UK semi-trucks run at 97,000lb and we’re also moving to SUVs and Ford Trucks like Raptor are also starting to make yet pedestrian casualty rates aren’t going up.

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    …yeah because they are fascist chariots

    “i wonder why the fascists drive dangerous chariots”

    it is because they are fascists

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      I don’t like these giant cars either. But if we use “fascist“ for everything that is harmful the word end up losing its meaning and power because fascism and giant cars are not in the same ball park of harm.

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        To be fair, the percentage of fascists among giant truck owners is probably far greater than it is for the rest of car owners.

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        They’re a “me, me, me”, “don’t give a shit about endangering the lives of anybody else”, anti-social choice of vehicle.

        Those are core character traits of people who are Fascists, though, granted not all people with those character traits are Fascists.

        Personally I do believe that the spread if that mindset and the increasing immunity from consequences for being like that towards others is one of the things backing the rise of Fascism.

        That said, I do agree with you that “Everything that’s bad is Fascism” just devalues the word and reduces its impact.

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        okay but they are literally built by literally fascist companies and sold under fascist loans to asshole americans who fund fascist wars around the world

        i’m not misusing the word