• ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 years ago

    Is all bad online behavior “trolling” now? Isn’t “shill” a better word for someone who is paid to surreptitiously promote something?

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      2 years ago

      Back in my day trolling meant something. It meant you cared enough to actually form a real argument that withstands scrutiny, just to setup for the rug pull. The better your polemic, the more engagement as people debated if you were for real or not.

      Shitposting controversial hot takes or dog whistle memes is mid af, do better

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      2 years ago

      No, all bad online behavior now is “bots.”

      At least that’s how people in the comments on lemmy and Reddit label them.

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        Not just bad behavior, if anyone disagrees with someone on Reddit now they accuse the other person of being a bot.

        Even for opinions you would hear people say in person frequently, the only explanation for seeing it online is “bot” now.

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          2 years ago

          It seems to correlate with the rise in general awareness of LLMs like ChatGPT. It seems like just the threat/possibility of ChatGPT being used has already distorted discourse online.

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          2 years ago

          I always saw it as someone who only repeats talking points verbatim is essentially a robot. If I can’t tell if you are a human posting, or an automated response is there a meaningful difference?

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            2 years ago

            Real people repeat talking points all the time.

            It’s trivial to use a prompt to avoid cliches, or to give a long nuanced answer.

            Just like CAPTCHAs, using this strategy to tell real people from bots will fail more than it works.