10 Reasons You Should Switch From Chrome to Firefox.::The best browser sync out there.

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    8 months ago

    11: It’s the only browser on the market that is not either apple webkit or google chrome based. And it’s in our best interest to keep said market healthy, with as many competing actors as possible.

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      At some point there were more than 1 relevant browsers using Gecko, though. Somebody at Mozilla decided to gloriously triumph over allies by killing XULRunner and not offering a replacement.

      Not sure if WebKit is such a bad choice in that context.

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        8 months ago

        The Tor browser is still Firefox based. Not a large niche, but being THE preferred way to browse with Tor makes it on its own imho

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        Well, there are also the mobile variants of Firefox, which are more of their own thing.

        IMO Mozilla limited itself a bit too much on Firefox. Which results it their web engine not attracting many developers for it outside Mozilla.

        Embedding gecko in your own app was much easier in the past. This is now mostly taken over by CEF and WPE for Blink and WebKit respectively.

        Also stuff like B2G (Boot 2 Gecko) or FirefoxOS are dead as well.

        A goal of open source should be to be hacker friendly as well, were currently Blink/WebKit is leading. There are so many more projects around those engines than Gecko, which is sad.

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      8 months ago

      It really is telling that even Microsoft don’t find it viable to maintain a browser engine.

      The “standards” are an absolute fucking nonsense, and boil down to “just do what Chrome does because nobody can stop them”.

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        To be fair to Chrome.

        Microsoft had the vast majority with Trident. Mozilla/Firefox slowly gained market share with Gecko. Chrome/Webkit* then took market share from both.

        It’s not like Chrome just appeared one day and demanded everyone use them, they gained market share by being a good browser.

        *(Chrome now uses a fork of Webkit called Blink.)

        That being said I do think Firefox provides the best browser experience, and Chrome users should look into switching.

        Which is a long way of saying Microsoft fucked up bad. Real bad.

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      8 months ago

      I just had to install chrome to book plane tickets. Kept getting an error on Firefox.

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        There’s a new feature inside Firefox that allows you to report webpages that are broken on Firefox but work in other browsers. Please use it. It’s a great way to push for universal compatibility within browsers. It’s usually the webpage developer’s fault for using a non-orthodox technique that works exclusively on Chrome, but shouldn’t be done for any sort of reasons, like compliance with web standards. But, it’s possible for Firefox to derive intelligence from the reports and write workarounds.

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          When I was choosing a return site it kept saying, “oops there was a mistake. It was not your fault. Try again later”.

          Their mobile app sucked too, so I installed chrome to see if it would work and it did right away.

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            8 months ago

            If websites don’t work on Firefox even if the user agent was changed to Chrome I recommend you to use a privacy preserving browser like ungoogled chromium.

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    8 months ago

    Firefox Multiaccount Containers, the thing that can’t be beat by even the best chrome derivatives

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    8 months ago

    TAB GROUPS, FIREFOX, BRING BACK TAB GROUPS.

    And no, extensions aren’t helping, their UX is so much worse.

    That’s just a make or break feature for me.

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      So I tried to find what tab groups are but most of the results are feature request threads so apologies if this isn’t what you want.

      Waterfox will soon be adding some sort of tab grouping feature akin to what tree-style-tab extension does. Here’s the blogpost about it https://www.waterfox.net/blog/waterfox-x-treestyletab/

      Again I’m not sure if that type of grouping is what you’re looking for but if it is consider watching out for the feature release. Longtime waterfox user and haven’t had many complaints, Alex has quickly responded to the two issues I made in the github including a feature request that got added within a week (ability to unload tabs with right click).

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    I’ve been moving away from Google in the last year and moving to Firefox was one of my first moves. It’s honestly a downgrade in usability but I guess that applies to all alternative products.

    I just wish I could sync my bookmarks between desktop and mobile. Seems like no one has this problem but firefox sync just does not work for me. It just says last update was never. Let me know if you know how to fix it.

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        • Tab Grouping would be my first pick.

        • When I first started using Firefox on Linux, dragging tabs was really reallyyyyyy bad but they have heavily improved it. UI just feels more polished on chrome

        • Sync doesn’t work for me, though it seems to work for everyone else. It doesn’t give me any error or a hint to what the problem might me, which is just bad UX.

        • Chromecasting an entire tab doesn’t work, though I guess can’t we can’t blame Firefox for that, can we?

        • My unit tests take at the very least twice as long to run on Firefox

        • Pinned tabs occasionally just disappear and I have to create everything again. Extensions exist to prevent this but don’t work with multi containers, which is honestly Firefox best feature.

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          What stops you from finding extensions that implement similar functionality? I know tree style tabs are pretty popular instead of tab grouping. This also so the first time I’ve heard of sync or pinned tabs not working. I’m kinda curious ab ur setup if youd be cool with sharing that? I feel like it might be a setup problem instead of a software one.

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            Firefox extensions can’t mess with Firefox tabs. Sure you have extensions such as tree style tabs but they don’t really change the tab bar, they add side-panel with your tabs in a tree style format. This means you end up with a tab bar and a tab panel, which is a bit clunky. There are ways to hide the tab bar by messing with the userChrome file but that’s not user friendly at all.

            I don’t have any particular setup that is too outrageous or different from anyone else. I just use Firefox, whatever is the most recent version in the arch repository. Ocasionally I open the browser and I don’t have any pinned tabs, I don’t know why. It’s not a frequent event or something tied to anything I can think off, it just appears to be random.

            The sync problem has been reported here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1879022

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                It still works and is my daily driver! On both mobile and desktop!

                I think it’s extremely important to support Google alternatives and I will continue to do so. Firefox still has pain points and recognizing them is also important.

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    I wish the password autofill feature was more robust for Firefox on Android. Using it as my default password provider but it regularly does not pick up on password fields.

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      Dunno if this helps you at all, but I’ve been using BitWarden to manage my passwords since I made the switch from Chrome to Firefox (both on PC and my Android phone). It doesn’t fill passwords automatically in either case, but it’s not much extra work to invoke BitWarden to fill those fields as-needed on either device, and it works very consistently. It’s also (I’m told) much more secure. Just thought I’d share that here!

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      The article mentions that “Chrome [has a] more restrictive Manifest 3 plugin API”, but doesn’t go into any examples, when this one is the main one (and why Google brought in manifest v3 at all).

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    The only reason I have chrome even installed is because I am forced to use it for chromecast every once in a while.

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      There’s a video service my therapist uses that refuses to run in Firefox. I expect it probably could, but it’s a lot less work to just launch chrome for that one use case.

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        8 months ago

        Install a user agent switcher. There are several for Firefox and you can spoof chrome.

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          Welllll I also have the other use case of my partner refuses to switch, so she wants chrome on the computer too.

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            Use different user accounts. Do you own thing. You can have both installed.

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              I do have both installed, but it’s easier to use chrome for the one use case I have since it’s going to be installed anyway for her

              Edit: oh you mean a user agent switcher too… Well, that seems like work 😛

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                I’m saying that you log in as “jojo” to the computer and another account is called “jojo’s gf”. You can do whatever you want in each and won’t bother the other. Computers are designed for muiltiuser use.

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                  It doesn’t bother either of us to be using the same login on the computer. And it doesn’t really bother her that firefix is installed nor me that chrome is.

                  And since chrome is sitting right there, it’s the easiest way to use my therapist’s video service.

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    Why not Brave? I mean… Firefox is fine, just, some of the extensions I need for example are not available on it.

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      Even Brave uses Chromium as a launching point before all of its customizations.

      This in turn gives Google control over web standards because if they choose not to support something or if they implement it in a particular way they effectively govern it’s adoption because of their near universal market share.

      I’m sure I missed a lot of nuance but this is my best take at explaining it.

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    There’s like… no downside: all upside.

    Edit: I exaggerated, of course. Below this are some downsides that individuals have experienced. But personally, my experience using Firefox on desktop for Mac has been all upside. If everybody who can just tries it out, you might be surprised at how friction-free the change is.