My lower res, lower DPI display from my old Dell laptop looks much more sharp and crisp than the fancy pants Framework 13 high res display.

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    Let me guess… You’re running an X.Org based WM/DE?

    X11 Doesn’t support fractional scaling properly . So some DEs will simulate it by scaling the apps the same way you scale a rasterized image like a PNG or JPEG, and as a result everything looks blurry. You’ll generally also have the same issue with XWayland apps on a Wayland display.

    The best way to combat this? Try to use Wayland native apps as much as possible.

    2nd best? Use non fractional values for scaling (x1 or x2 instead of x1.25)

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      You can also adjust the x dpi with .xresources, but switching to wayland is the better solution

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      Let me guess… You’re running an X.Org based WM/DE?

      Na, using Wayland with Gnome 45. 1.25x scale actually looks less blurry than 2x. (Putting aside that 2x is ridiculously large.)

      The best way to combat this?

      Is to buy a laptop with a regular DPI display and avoid this class of bugs altogether. This way I can keep using Discord and 1Password.

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        Also kde is way better about this than gnome. Especially kde 6.

        Discord is blurry because it’s an electron app, and electron isn’t native Wayland. You can make it work with --enable-features=UseOzonePlatform --ozone-platform=wayland

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    Yeah totally the customer’s fault for wanting a nice display in friggin 2024, certainly not the software’s which still has no proper support for it.

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      Exactly! All I want is a nice display in 2024—and Framework chooses a garbage display with known issues.

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        Discord, Spotify and other electron applications will work fine in a browser. Rather than installing packages that are causing you issues just run them in Firefox.

        It’s not a hardware issue but a combination of software issues.

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    HiDPI is pretty good though, I’m running Fedora Workstation (GNOME) on a 4K 14" Thinkpad X1 Yoga with 2.5x scaling. Everything looks crisp except for a few applications like Audacity and Minecraft.

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      A lot of apps still have issues and it just takes one personally important one to make the whole thing not worth it.

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    Just like the teacher at school who kept turning all computers’ screen resolutions to 640x480 because the text was too small.

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      Fun fact: Instead of implementing scaling settings for RDP, Microsoft just uses lower resolution on its Android RDP client and then upscales that to fit the whole screen.
      Which is why the official client is so blurry compared to e.g. aFreeRDP by default.

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    Use KDE, especially Plasma 6. Hasn’t been an issue for me FW13 12Gen Intel since the last few Plasma 5 releases. I tried GNOME for a while but it can go pound sand.

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    Mac OS has has this nailed down basically perfectly for over 10 years now, even windows has been great in the last 5+ years. Not having scaling done right in the age of 4k displays being cheap is a sin.

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    How dare you use standard display tech on any commercial laptop bought within the last 5+ years. You should be like me, vastly superior in every human way, with my old tech. I am very smart.

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    This is what gets me every damn time I see some post saying Linux desktop isn’t a mess. Absurd shit like this.

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      I mean MacOS has the reverse problem. They dropped support for sub pixel rendering once they switched to HDPI screens so now text looks blurry as fuck on all normal dpi monitors.

      Windows and some Linux distros are the only OSs that nicely handles resolution scaling across both high and low dpi screens.

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        Yeah but most customers buying a MacBook don’t give a shit about running 10 year old 1080p monitors. Linux users high s much higher chance of running old hardware.

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          I mean, I do and I have to use a Macbook for work. There’s not much difference between 4k and 1080p at under 24", on top of the fact that I should be testing my software on 1080p screens and not just exclusively high res screens.

          Apple’s attitude towards technology as disposable and garbage the instant it ages is horrendous and has knock on effects for everyone.

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            Your personal preference aside Linux DE (in general) pisses off more of it’s users as a % over stuff like this than apple does. The general populations preferences don’t line up to the Linux community ethos or practices. This is an example of that.

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                Your failure to provide a reliable source for your claims is not my problem.

                If you cannot provide a reliable source of your claims, your claim will be dismissed.

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    You should just add FREETYPE_PROPERTIES="cff:no-stem-darkening=0 autofitter:no-stem-darkening=0" as an environment variable, and use wayland