Next year Windows 10 goes End of Life. Microsoft will undoubtedly push windows 11 hard, but a lot of machines won’t support it leading to a few economic points of interest:

The demand for new machines will be high, driving up cost.

The supply of unsupported machines will be high, driving down the used market.

Are you all ready?

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    7 months ago

    With Valve pumping all that development money and effort into proton, I will finally be able to go full Linux before Windows 10 ends it’s life. I only needed it for gaming, but those days are finally gone! Thanks Valve! _

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        7 months ago

        I did it many years ago. Some minor hiccups (Mostly at the start, with a select few games taking a while before running well in proton), but overall my experience has been pretty smooth as well. Especially in like the last…3ish years? I dont think I’ve been held back from playing anything I seriously wanted to play.

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    7 months ago

    Yeah, people are just going to keep using it, they just won’t get updates. That means they will be vulnerable to any exploits that come along afterward but most people don’t care. M$ shot everyone in the foot when they decided to limit windows 11 compatibility.

    When windows 7 came out I knew people who stuck with windows xp until they bought a new computer with 10 or 11 on it. The market will get a slight bump from EoL but it isn’t going to force everyone with windows 10 to run out and buy a new computer immediately.

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      7 months ago

      It’s mostly just to force the hands of businesses that will now have to upgrade to stay compliant with security standards

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        7 months ago

        Which is probably the play. I’d doubt Microsoft really gives a flying fuck about home users buying licenses anymore, since their revenue model for consumer Windows is just ads and data harvesting now anyway.

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      7 months ago

      Personally I use Linux Mint on my other machine and Windows on my main PC

      Before Windows 10 goes EoL I’m going to get my NAS running a Windows VM for Fusion 360 and Lightroom and my main rig will be on Linux Mint as well

      I just need a need to finish my NAS rebuild to get everything rolling at full steam

      Unfortunately that means I need to stop buying car parts first

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        7 months ago

        If you wanted to get rid of windows in general, Darktable seems to be a good alternative to lightroom, for raw editing. There’s a learning curve, but there are plenty of tutorials available.

        Not sure about Fusion 360 though… Maybe FreeCAD?

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          7 months ago

          Unfortunately FreeCAD is not as featur e rich as Fusion 360

          It’s getting closer but it’s not there yet

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          7 months ago

          As your attorney I advise you to buy a motorcycle. Bikes and bike parts are cheaper. And then you can have more bikes than cars, and more bikes to buy parts for. Wait, where was I going with this again?

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      7 months ago

      My machine is 7 years old and runs fine on Windows 11. I don’t understand all these posts about Windows 11 not being supported. TPMs have been a thing for 10+ years now.

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    7 months ago

    IMHO people just won’t give a flying fuck about it. Most people won’t even be aware of it.

    They’ll upgrade when they’ll buy a new PC, just as usual.

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    7 months ago

    Corporations (the only people who actually care about their OS being in support) upgrade their machines every few years so they’ve already done that. Home users don’t know what that means and won’t care. The remaining 2% have already installed linux.

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    7 months ago

    I don’t know. I have a 7th gen i7 and it works fine, I want a new PC but can’t afford it, but even if I could I wouldn’t touch Win11 with a barge pole.

    I fucking hate it. I don’t want to move to Linux. Probably just pirate the updates for the next 3 years and then deal with the security risk.

    Need to petition the EU to shop this shit and force them to extend life due to the insane amount of e-waste it will cause.

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    7 months ago

    We are trialing about 20 Linux desktops (10 Linux mint and 10 zorin OS) across 2 of our MSP clients.

    So far, they have had zero technical tickets in 6 months. They did have double the average user training tickets compared to windows machines. Most of the questions were around how to work with editable PDFs and where is the document was they just saved (file manager questions).

    Zorin OS seems to be winning on the usability metrics. Its very polished and more closely matching the UI of people coming from windows.

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        7 months ago

        Not in our case. We only take on clients that converted to browser based apps. Bit we are yet to convert the heavy excel users. The one we have converted are light Excel users and online excel is working just fine for them.

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          7 months ago

          It’s my only hangup. I vba on the regular. Work forced win11 on me, but at home, once i can be assed, I’ll vm windows eventually and migrate completely, and scheme alternative languages for my spreadsheet wizardry lmao

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            7 months ago

            Libre calc Scripting imo is more matured and better than excel. Better and far more popular language (python or javascript equally far better than vb)

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              I’ve heard good things but haven’t looked into it yet. Thing is, I got so good at vba that I got a promotion out of it lmao. As archaic as it is, my work is essentially hardcoded in windows for the foreseeable future, so I have to be able to dick around in msoffice.

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                7 months ago

                I highly recommend skilling up asap. Its really eol. Nothing stopping you from changing your code to python (which is supported in excel) with the goal to migrate out to either an application or FOSS office suite. LibreOffice costs your corpo IT nothing to deploy unlike MS Office which costs to buy and keeps costing with every proprietary service and feature you use.

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    7 months ago

    Mine’s been “dead” for near 5 years now and its still chuggin along as an arcade/jukebox/dvdplayer

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    7 months ago

    There are people out there still using Windows XP. Not everyone will jump because Microsoft is trying to force their hand