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Half the time piped links won’t work for me and the other half of the time the videos buffer incredibly slow.
I had a similar time with piped not working reliably, I prefer invidious, specifically iv.ggtyler.dev has pretty much always worked for me
Anyways, It’s really easy to just swap for another instance or whatever
OP link is
https://piped.video/watch?v=YnSv8ylLfPw
Just take everything after the domain and TLD
(everything after “piped.video”)
And slap it on the end of another instances domain and TLD
(For example iv.ggtyler.dev)
End result:
iv.ggtyler.dev/watch?v=YnSv8ylLfPw
It even works with YouTube:
I think it’s not a good idea to leave links to Piped instead of YouTube (same for Nitter/Twitter, Libreddit/Reddit, etc.). If you want to avoid YouTube, then just install LibRedirect extension or similar. Piped links are temporary, they’ll break sooner or later, making it difficult for people to get to the website.
The problem that I see is that all of these alternatives still rely on YouTube at the end of the day.
And the cost of setting up a new video hosting site that’s free to consume content from is ridiculous.
Something that is federated like PeerTube would solve that specific issue, I believe. Many sites with their own user able to interact with each other. The biggest problem there is that there exists no good app to interact with PeerTube. You can use NewPipe or Greyjay, but you have to know the PeerTube instances first, no what’s popular in the fediverse tab.
Peertube is great. And while the lack of an app is a problem, the lack of having a way to make money out if your videos is a bigger one for creators.
For now, they have to rely on Patreon or an equivalent.
And while the lack of an app is a problem,
You can watch PeerTube videos on NewPipe.
That is a good point, I appreciate the response. I wonder if there is a way to attract advertisers responsibly, or if advertising is really the best way to monetize content. I’m not in that world so I don’t know the best solution in that regard, but a monolithic entity certainly isn’t.
Greyjay
Grayjay is great IMO. It combines video from a variety of sources, such as YouTube, Odyssee, Rumble, PeerTube, Twitch, etc. I disable most of those, but I do have some channels on multiple platforms. Also, there’s a feature to recognize the same content across services for the same creator, so users can choose the service they want the content from.
It’s Android only, so hopefully they add more platforms eventually. One annoying thing is that it’s not really open source, it’s just “source available,” but that’s way better than the propriety platforms they’re providing an alternative to. That said, there are a few things I don’t like about it:
- rotate doesn’t work reliably for me - I just got a new phone, so I’ll see if it’s still an issue
- seems like it uses way more resources than necessary (i.e. compared to NewPipe)
- kinda buggy sometimes - it is getting regular updates, so I think it’s just growing pains
And some things I love about it:
- available outside of the Play Store - I get updates within the app, just like on a desktop app, or I can install through F-Droid (they have their own repo)
- PiP - I like having it open while wasting time on Lemmy
- no ads or other nonsense - you can buy a license, but features aren’t gated behind paying (I’m planning to pay once rotate is fixed)
On the one hand, there are true alternatives like Vimeo. On the other, sometimes you just need to access an existing video…
I liked it except for that “ad blocking is piracy” shit he snuck in there
Isn’t it? You’re not paying for a service / product.
That’s the service’s problem. VCRs and DVRs had ad-block ages ago, and those were commercial products sold at regular retail stores, so it’s totally a non-issue.
An ad-blocker just means I’m not running optional extras. The web server says, “please display X, Y, and Z,” and the ad-blocker says, nah to Y and Z, but I’ll render X." It’s the same idea as safe-search filters to block websites, but it runs within “trusted” pages instead of just blocking certain domains.
It’s the same with sponser blockers, but I personally don’t use them and prefer to manually skip them instead unless the creator generally has good recs (e.g. I often watch them once/twice on Gamers Nexus, because they only recommend good products, but block the others).
Piracy is sharing content that you don’t have the rights to share. Ad-block just blocks content you don’t want to see. Those are not the same thing at all.
Piracy is sharing content that you don’t have the rights to share.
I’d classify watching something on piracysite.com as piracy.
I’d also class bypassing Netflix’s login requirements to watch their catalogue as piracy. But I guess that’s more a semantics thing.
Sure, because in those cases you’re gaining access to content that you don’t have permission to access.
Ad-block isn’t that, it’s just blocking content you don’t want. You still have permission to the content.
You don’t have permission to modify any of the content YouTube sends you.
https://www.youtube.com/t/terms#eb887a967c
Section: Permissions and Restrictions Point 2
circumvent, disable, fraudulently engage, or otherwise interfere with the Service (or attempt to do any of these things), including security-related features or features that: (a) prevent or restrict the copying or other use of Content; or (b) limit the use of the Service or Content;
Yes, it’s a violation of their TOS, but TOS is often illegal anyway.
I’m not modifying any of the content they send, I’m merely not rendering it. That’s a very different thing. It’s just like blocking fonts (I do that too), if I don’t want an asset, I won’t download it. If they want to block me because I’m blocking part of their page from loading, that’s on them.
but TOS is often illegal anyway.
Piracy isn’t only a legal thing. It’s just dealt with through the legal system.
I’m not modifying any of the content
Sorry, I was wrong. You are however circumventing YouTube’s playing ads.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://www.piped.video/t/terms#eb887a967c
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Why would I reduce quality of my life tho?
If all this engagement slop went out of business tomorrow, my life wouldn’t change lol
This is shit ain’t food or house. I decide how I pay for it and if I pay at all. There is jack shit anyone can do about that. These companies and slop generators need to learn their place in the economy haha
Not saying you shouldn’t block ads, just questioning the OCs comment. If you don’t pay for the service monetarily or through data then imo it’s piracy.
Piracy is just a PR term by used by the industry that hates its users… Why would you care as consumer about some shiti companies?
I’m a pedantic asshole.
Alright then.
What definition for piracy are your relying on and where did you source it?
Does DMCA even have a definition for this?
What definition for piracy are your relying on?
The illegitimate procurement of media.
where did you source it?
My ass.
Does DMCA even have a definition for this?
Can’t help you there, I’m not American.
Warning: It’s Linus Sebastian
… on YouTube.
This is piped.
Which streams YouTube content. He posted it to YouTube, piped just removes ads from YouTube videos.
Go on then, LTT. Delete your youtube account.
They have already started their own platform, Floatplane. And other creators are on it as well.
Simple fact is though, YouTube is still king, and so leaving YouTube entirely isn’t tenable at this point. But they are already working on alternatives.
They are leading in the right direction. I think that’s the important.
Apparently they’re going to address YouTube replacements in the second part of the series. Also I’m fairly sure they spoke about Youtube ReVanced a couple of times before.
I’m nearly there, except I can’t get away from Google Maps. There’s not really any alternative here that provides public transport information.
Yeah google maps is still the GOAT as much as I wish it wasn’t.
I imagine they’re really itching to torpedo it somehow. Surprisingly long time for them not to do so.
Idk, it’s driving a ton of ad revenue (sponsored businesses and whatnot), why would they nuke it? They also get free boosting from users leaving reviews as well.
It’s not as lucrative as search, but I would be very surprised if it’s a loss-leader. Surely it’s not costing $5+B to run…
If you’re on desktop, check out freetube instead of the buggy mess that is piped links.
Having issues playing this in mobile browser. Can’t copy like to play in NewPipe mobile.
Try just putting the end into the search.
/watch?v=YnSv8ylLfPw
Check out my other comment on this thread for a quick breakdown of YouTube/piped/invidious/etc links
They should have also mentioned GrapheneOS
I just installed it yesterday and it was super easy. So far I’m liking it, and I now have two profiles: Owner (main, no Play services) and work (has Play services for work apps). I’m still moving all my crap over, so I guess we’ll see over the next few weeks if I run into issues.
Enjoy your spyware-free degoogled experience! Feel free to dm me if you have any questions. I’d say I’m quite experienced with GrapheneOS, degoogling and Android in general.
Thanks, I might just do that!
I’ve only had it a day, and I haven’t even swapped my SIM yet (waiting for my case to be delivered), so I’ll give it a couple weeks to really get a feel for things. I’m going on a road trip soon, and may be going out of the country, so if I’m going to run into issues, it’s going to be soon. I’m also going to try using the eSIM to trial Google Fi (international data FTW, free for 7 days), so it should be a rather complete experience.
Google Fi is the one thing I have no experience with, as I’m not American. But all SIMs should work fine on Graphene, and eSIMs are supported through a compatibility layer, which enables Google’s proprietary eSIM management tool (this is not the same as Sandboxed Google Play services, and you don’t need Google Play for eSIMs). All the eSIMs and physical SIMs I tried work just fine. Google Fi seems to work, according to this thread on the Graphene Forum: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/7950-does-grapheneos-work-with-google-fi/6
Cool.
Since you’re here, do you know if SIMs “just work” with different profiles? Can I restrict them to a specific profile? I’m guessing SIMs are a completely separate concept from profiles (which AFAIK just manages apps), but this is my first time with GrapheneOS.
As far as I can see, no. But what benefit would that really have? Network settings (including mobile networks) are global. The only thing that’s profile-specific is your VPN setting. You can only disable a profile’s ability to use the phone/SMS feature. Profiles generally manage apps, user data and some settings.
The benefit is that I could block apps installed to one profile from using my data (i.e. wifi only), while allow apps on the other to use it. I could install something like NetGuard, but I also use a VPN, and it’s one or the other with that IIRC (at least on my old phone, I can only use one VPN at a time).
This was just part 1 with probably the lowest hanging fruits :)
Still glad they mentioned this topic at all. I wouldn’t have expected it from LTT.
