• Ranvier@sopuli.xyz
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      3 months ago

      Will use 4x as much electricity though, ugh.

      https://www.cleanenergyresourceteams.org/your-old-refrigerator-energy-hog

      Anyone know of any refrigerators today that are as durable as older ones and have today’s efficiencies, but without the smart features and other junk?

      Average refrigerator today still lasts 13 years though, and while they’re made cheaply they also are cheaper (at least as a portion percentage of the average paycheck).

      https://reviewed.usatoday.com/dishwashers/features/ask-the-experts-why-dont-new-home-appliances-last

      • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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        Sub Zero, Thermador… High end refrigerators, just look at the price, we decided to forget the idea because of that.

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        3 months ago

        We have a refrigerator from the '80s that runs like a champ.

        Solved the energy problem by putting solar panels on the roof.

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        I’ve heard that in the US fridges are generally different, with stuff like active fans and nonsense like that. Is that true?

        Because every fridge I’ve seen in Europe is mechanically extremely basic and I’ve literally never seen or even heard of one breaking. In my experience fridges are one of the only things that have remained phenomenally simple in design and extremely unlikely to break.

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          Well there are evaporator fans in modern refrigerators in the US. They serve an important role though helping with defrosting, improving cooling efficiency, and evenness of cooling throughout the fridge.

          https://refrigeratorguide.net/maximize-cooling-efficiency-best-refrigerator-evaporator/

          Usually only very small refrigerators are without them now.

          It is another point of failure though, but should be pretty easily repairable. I mean it’ll still be able to cool without the fan, but it’ll be running much more to try and compensate and keep things cool though.

          If you know the YouTube channel technology connections, here’s a fun video of him messing around with a fanless style refrigerator:

          https://youtube.com/watch?v=8PTjPzw9VhY

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          Every LG and Samsung major appliance I’ve had has broken within 5 years.

          Refrigerators, washing machines, and dryers.

          Prior, I only ever had 80s era American tank energy hogs. Switched back to American brands in the last few years, so too soon to tell if they’ll work out better…

          Here’s to hoping.

          Oh, and having dealt with LG warranty for both electronics and major appliances, I’ll never buy another LG product that isn’t a monitor.

          LG monitors are the only higher end LG product’s I’ve owned that have survived well past the warranty date.

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            I think Samsung is generally considered trash now. I certainly will never buy any of their “smart” objects either, especially not an ad-ridden TV.

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              I can confirm Samsung appliances are complete trash. Every single one I’ve owned has either died or had a non-replaceable part fail within a couple years. We had a Samsung fridge at one point and one of the door switches failed. No big deal right, easy to replace? No, apparently Samsung used some kind of custom switch instead of the bog standard cherry contact switch that basically everything and everyone has used for decades, and it’s no longer being manufactured.

    • Joe Cool@lemmy.ml
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      Can confirm. Use a fridge from 1974. 2 years ago thermostat failed. Replaced with digital one for $15. Now have a nice digital readout of the temps. Thing uses 180W 100W when running, less than bigger newer ones.
      It’s even more ecological to keep it running since it still has the nasty ozone layer killing coolant that would partly evaporate when trashing it.

      EDIT: 100W just checked the type plate.

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      I haven’t looked at the statistical data on this myself, but there’s something to be said for survivorship bias.