This is equivalent to asking the road construction workers and engineers to be held accountable for those that break the speed limit
No, that would be if they tried to assign liability to Bell Labs. ISPs have traffic logs and are assigning IP addresses to pirates. I’d say it’s closer to holding Hertz accountable when people who rented cars break the speed limit. Still a terrible idea though.
But I’m concerned how they can request this with a straight face, since we’ve seen wholesale abuse of the DMCA since its inception. Ask anybody who has a YouTube channel with more than 5k subscribers about the false reports they’ve received from companies claiming to own someone else’s music. People are going to have their access cut off based on fake reports.
ISPs route data packets between IP addresses; they don’t get to see the content of what I send/receive (it’s encrypted), and they don’t get domain info without deep packet inspection, because I don’t use their DNS servers.
It’s more like sometimes the city will put up speed cameras and ALPRs — but does that make them responsible for speeders?
You have a point about the DMCA though; I’ve had videos monetized by a third party because of music I wrote and performed myself — turned out, the company was stealing MY music and I got dinged for it.
To be clear, I’m not saying it’s a good argument. OP just grossly mischaracterized it.
The main issue with this is that it would either A. Be massively open to abuse in the same way that YouTube is now, but would come with greater penalties in that you can lose Internet access. Or B. Force your ISP to do a copyright analysis every time they receive a report.
Every illegally downloaded book is a lost sale
This is straight out of 2007. What an awful position to take.
And that’s fucking wild about someone fighting you over your own music. The DMCA is a fucking joke.
I mean… why do you think new speed bumps and traffic signals get added to neighborhoods? Same with adjusted speed limits.
That IS the engineers (well, the local government that employs them) being held accountable for dangerous roads.
For this? I have very serious concerns for all the obvious reasons. But ISPs 100% know what we are doing. Like… there is a reason that comcast et al basically have like a 1 gig upload on a 100 gig down connection. Same with bandwidth caps… which “worked” up until everyone was teleconferencing from home and watching 4k netflix.
And… considering comcast et al love to sell bundles for “unlimited bandwidth” or “symmetrical upload”… they are very much profiting off of piracy.
there is a reason that comcast et al basically have like a 1 gig upload on a 100 gig down connection.
Because they’re limited on channels and allocate more of them for increased download speed because most people upload very little data comparatively.
The bandwidth cap is just a pure money grab as they removed the caps during covid when everyone was video calling and sitting around online at home and ‘somehow’ their network handled it just fine.
None of this has anything to do with piracy.
Sounds like the authors guild needs to read a book about how the Internet works
Sue the air while you are at it for carrying the electromagnetic waves of bits of internet.
This is fair. When they are committing a crime, they should be held accountable.
But they are not, they are common carriers, in the same way FedEx is not responsible for shipping a package that is secretly a pipe bomb.
Copyright maximalists pretty consistently are glad to pirate stuff that isn’t theirs when it is suddenly expedient to do so.
As with when the studios and labels push for legal anti-piracy measures, I call shenanigans.
This is not our first rodeo: when a ten-year-old girl downloads the latest release in her favorite literary series because she’s too poor, and we no longer support our libraries to have current selections, no-one is going to want to prosecute the little girl who wants to read.
Well, maybe some billionaires might, but the media would have a field day with it.
We can always torrent on I2P if push comes to shove guys
Or use Usenet
The server should not be responsible for the food they bring to the customer or for what the chef cooks.
Bit of a stretch the way this is angled…
Come back once you have dealt with the thieving AI companies.
That string of 1’s and 0’s is mine!!!
Interesting to see the reactions here; how they differ from other lawsuits that pit “authors” and “artists” against tech companies.
Huh, it’s almost like each issue has nuance.
The author’s guild can go fuck itself.
This is why I hate paying these people. They will always try to use that money against us to get even more money.
It’s just business for them, so it should just be business for us.
Soon they will all be lobbying for digital ID and mandatory identity verification every single time you connect to the internet because they don’t want to be held liable for what you choose to do on it.
Just another erosion of rights for the American people. No surprise there.
