False dichotomy, much?
Crazy fucks do that sometimes. I wonder why people still listen to them.
I’d rather be a free and open society than win any kind of industrial race.
“Owner of surveillance apparatus reckons we should all just chill and accept total surveillance”
This fucking dude.
“It’s just… We’re named after the artifact the ancient evil used to peer on the world.”
a surveillance megacorp says surveillance is good and needed. cartoonish evil.
Breaking News.
Man with vested interest in selling his services, insists buying his services is the only way to save us from the evil foreign menace
If you read his book The Technological Republic, he calls for a « collectivist » ideology and the merger of corporation and state. A few historical examples to choose from would be Fascist Italy, Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia or Communist China to get an idea of his vision for America’s future.
What? The man who rivals the spying ability of many nations isnt totally on the up and up? Whuda thunkit!
The public needs public mass surveillance on CEOs and the top 1% only. They are the top threat to the world
1000% this.
They’re predators, both sexually and economically, and society has let them get away with their plans for far too long.
There is that quick and funny operation that you can do using guilotine (or anything you can get your hands on if you’re creative enough!) that significantly reduce the need for oversight. I agree we should put monitoring around the mass grave in case those ghouls can actually get up. It’s a stretch, but better safe than sorry.
Sure but it’s looking a lot more likely that the mass graves will be for the working class
Actual humans believe life without Palantir is preferable to China winning the AI race.
Well this Palantir the originals can stay, those that were not lost.
True
His head on a pike would be preferrable to both.
Legalise it plz.
Let’s put cameras in all his houses and monitor him 24/7. Maybe he’d like it though?
us winning the ai race. china winning the ai race. who gives a shit i still wont care about ai.
“First one to rid itself of its human workforce” makes the race sound less enticing.
Ahh yes. The only 2 options
Aliens (even illegal ones) are preferable to an asteroid strike, too.
Too bad they aren’t mutually exclusive.
The what race? No one has been working on AI for a while… if he means LLMs and similar generative models there’s only the race to see how long it takes for the models to be so poisoned by being trained on their own slop that they no longer can produce the illusion of giving useful results (seems like the current generation is almost there, already giving diminishing results), and the race to extract as much money as possible from the economy before the first one ends and the bubble pops…
No one has been working on AI for a while…
It’s rage bait… Or the guy is an ego centric arrogant who thinks the reality is in his 15 headlines a day.
…what?
LLMs are AI. What is this?
I am asking seriously. Can someone explain the context of this nonsense?
Are we really entering a luddite phase again?
Doesnt matter if we take LLMs out of the equations. AI is being worked on in many forms constantly.
Palantir is an example, which makes the statement laughable.
Right.
AI has been worked on for generations. We’ve been benefiting from the fruits of that labor for a long time, mainly starting with search and translations.
Now we have the ability to have a conversation with machines and it is somehow not intelligence?
I am really confused.
Intelligence does not mean consciousness or alive. It is means intelligence, which can be summarized as advanced pattern matching & predictive behavior.
A beetle is intelligent and alive. Is an LLM more intelligent than a beetle? What about an image classifying model, like CLIP? It can perceive and describe objects in an image in natural language, what insect can do that?
This is a form of intelligence. It was artificially created. It is artificial intelligence.
We can criticize the corporate and investor approaches, mourn the loss of purpose for many workers and artists, without being delusional about what this technology is.
I understand where you come from with the beetle example, though I would still consider most living creatures more intelligent.
But it is a diffenition of intelligens we debate now. The beetles intelligens is not interesting for us, but it sure is capable of image, sound and movement capabilities on a much higher level in real time.
No they’re not. They’re fancy autocomplete. Statistics engines. Extremely more expensive but not particularly more capable Markov chains.
Them being marketed as AI doesn’t make them AI, it just makes them a scam.
The thousands of researchers researching it all conspired together, naming it wrong, just to fool you, the one true expert for AI!
Or its just real AI.
I can have a more intelligent conversation with the “not-an-AI” than you right now, so I think I would prefer that.
You may want to actually learn about what you’re dealing with before so confidently spreading complete bullshit.
Technically, LLMs aren’t ai. What they do is basically predict relationship between words. They can’t reason or count or learn.
You are a pedant and a fool.
Careful, my other comment got removed because of a witty but still insightful dig.
They are very sensitive here about how the AI isn’t really AI.
“Technically”? Wrong word. By all technical measures, they are technically 100% AI.
What you might be trying to say is they aren’t AGI (artificial general intelligence). I would argue they might just be AGI. For instance, they can reason about what they are better than you can, while also being able to draw a pelican riding a unicycle.
What they certainly aren’t is ASI (artificial super-intelligence). You can say they technically aren’t ASI and you would be correct. ASI would be capable of improving itself faster than a human would be capable.
Exactly. Nothing technical about it: they simply produce the statistically most likely token (in their training model) to follow a given list of tokens.
Any information contained in their output (other than the fact that each of the tokens is probably the most statistically likely to appear after the previous ones in the texts used as their models, which I imagine could be useful for philologists) is purely circumstantial, and was already contained in their training model.
There’s no reasoning involved in the process (other than possibly in the writing of the texts in their training mode if they predate LLM, if we’re feeling optimistic about human intelligence), nor any mechanism in the LLM for reasoning to take place.
They are as far from AI as Markov chains were, just slightly more correct in their token likelihood predictions and several orders of magnitude more costly.
And them being sold as AI doesn’t make them any closer, it just means the people and companies selling them are scammers.
I bet you’d be able to get a great grip on his hair as you wind up with the other hand for that oh-so-punchable face.
