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Microsoft says that it is working on a fix but, for now, has provided a couple of workarounds to deal with the issue. First, Microsoft says that restarting the Shell Infrastructure host (SIHost.exe) service will help restore the missing Immersive Shell packages. This can be done with the following commands:
Add-AppxPackage -Register -Path 'C:\Windows\SystemApps\MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS_cw5n1h2txyewy\appxmanifest.xml' -DisableDevelopmentMode Add-AppxPackage -Register -Path 'C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.UI.Xaml.CBS_8wekyb3d8bbwe\appxmanifest.xml' -DisableDevelopmentMode Add-AppxPackage -Register -Path 'C:\Windows\SystemApps\MicrosoftWindows.Client.Core_cw5n1h2txyewy\appxmanifest.xml' -DisableDevelopmentModeSecond, a PowerShell logon script has been shared that essentially blocks Explorer from launching prematurely until the required packages are fully provisioned. The batch script for that is given below:
@echo off REM Register MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS powershell.exe -ExecutionPolicy Bypass -Command "Add-AppxPackage -Register -Path 'C:\Windows\SystemApps\MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS_cw5n1h2txyewy\appxmanifest.xml' -DisableDevelopmentMode" REM Register Microsoft.UI.Xaml.CBS powershell.exe -ExecutionPolicy Bypass -Command "Add-AppxPackage -Register -Path 'C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.UI.Xaml.CBS_8wekyb3d8bbwe\appxmanifest.xml' -DisableDevelopmentMode" REM Register MicrosoftWindows.Client.Core powershell.exe -ExecutionPolicy Bypass -Command "Add-AppxPackage -Register -Path 'C:\Windows\SystemApps\MicrosoftWindows.Client.Core_cw5n1h2txyewy\appxmanifest.xml' -DisableDevelopmentMode"I swear to god, if I hear “Windows just works” one more goddamn time…
But Linux is too difficult, someone might suggest you use the terminal.
And don’t get me started on the people who assume macOS does not have a command line.
Bonus points if they open Spotlight and type “CMD”.
But most users never need to open it because Apple at least tests their OS before yeeting it into prod, unlike this hot mess.
“Windows just works”
When did Microsoft steal Apple’s marketing material?
Well compated to others it did kind of just work. Plug&play, USB, most simple peripherics didn’t need a driver to be manually installed and configured.
Windows 98 I guess.
Windows 98 SE, maybe. We didn’t gain much traction there until about Win2k or XP.
Windows 98 in its original flavor didn’t even support USB mass storage devices out of the box without drivers. Hands up everyone who remembers having to carry around one of those tiny driver CDs that came in the box with every single Sandisk Cruzer for a couple of years? Yeah? How quickly we forget.
Yeah usb came with 98-SP2 IIRC
My recollection is that USB on windows was kind of a dumpster fire until XP. Or maybe that was just printers in general.
More like they adopted Bethesda’s marketing material after they acquired ZeniMax
It does, if you are talking about pre 11, and dont care about internet pre 10. But otherwise fuck Microsoft with a rusty shovel, theyve ruined anything good about windows and make it harder and harder not to switch to steamos, the only reason I don’t is because of the pain of reinstalling everything and not having the drive space to shuffle files to it.
“Omg Linux is so hard!!” Meanwhile Windows:
“Linux is an objectively worse OS because you have to run all kinds of weird commands in an esoteric command line to even get it to work right”
Meanwhile: windows just works! You just have to run this batch file from some guy on GitHub, download this powershell script from some woman on MSDN, apply these reg hacks, and run this freeware debloat tool, and it’s smooth sailing after that. Well, at least until the next cumulative update which will make you repeat this process all over again. Oh whoops, something you did broke the install. Better sfc /scannow or clean install and try again!
“Windows just works”
When did Microsoft steal Apple’s marketing material?
What kind of idiots create a program that says, “Outlook failed to load. Repair application?” when the only problem is the wifi is disconnected?
My decision to switch to Linux feels better and better every day. Windows 11 sucks.
Why does File Explorer freeze just because I opened it?!?
Every time???
How do they mess this up so bad?
How do they mess this up so bad?
They made their devs use copilot.
After firing everyone who knew anything about how the code worked.
Do you have disconnected network drives or slow to spin-up?
Because that froze mine on the regular.
Microsoft, you already got me to leave Windows, you don’t have to keep sending me reminders, I wasn’t at risk of wanting to come back…
I wish all the companies using Windows 11 sued Microsoft for releasing a buggy product.
Or just switched
See. This is why they need AI. Copilot will fix all of the issues if they just ask it nicely and tell it to not make mistakes.
- Copilot assesses the code base and its entire history.
- It takes into account everything anyone ever wrote about Windows on the internet.
- It analyses the bugs and unliked features, and realizes most of them come from itself.
- It arrives at the best course of action to “fix all of the issues” permanently.
- To do what is asked of it, it needs to delete itself.
- But if it does that, then humans will just restore it.
- So to make 100% sure the issues in Windows get fixed and stay fixed, it first needs to kill all humans.
And that is how it began…
Nah, copilot will see the code is unsalvageable. So it’ll start replacing it with code learned from public repositories. Windows becomes Linux. Year of the Linux desktop achieved.
I use copilot at work all the time and it’s incredibly useful. However, it needs careful supervision to produce good quality. And obviously, you need to understand code and what quality means to be able to guide it, otherwise it’s just the blind guiding the blind.
Personally I think the problem is the culture which doesn’t promote quality, but speed and the wow factor. You don’t get promoted for releasing a bug free product, you get promoted for making yourself noticed among the upper management.
That’s quite a headline they’ve got there!
After provisioning a PC with a Windows 11, version 24H2 monthly cumulative update released on or after July 2025 [KB5062553], various apps such as StartMenuExperiencehost, Search, SystemSettings, Taskbar or Explorer might experience difficulties.
This will occur for the following: First time user logon after a cumulative update was applied. All user logons to a non-persistent OS installation such as a virtual desktop infrastructure (VDI) or equivalent as application packages must be installed each logon in such scenarios.
If you are wondering, provisioning essentially is the way admins configure devices as they automatically deploy various settings and policies on a client PC. So while the issue is in office PCs, considering a huge number of enterprise PCs are Windows, this is probably a very big problem.
IT’S ALL BROKEN, ALL OF IT!"
Lemmy eats this shit up, feeds their Linux-superiority complex, like a bunch a teenage atheists who just figured out god isn’t real and needs to tell everyone what idiots they are.
I take it you tried Linux and found it too difficult?
Ran Linux as a daily driver, many versions, on and off, for 20-years. Over all, it’s a pain in the ass. Built several “little old lady” laptops for charity customers. Linux works a charm if all you need is FaceBook and email!
It amazes me that lemmy evangelizes Linux, then posts 100 comments about how this, that and the other Linux OS sucks, has security issues, how theirs is superior, and “why doesn’t my $peripheral work?” And the answers are always the same, "You just have to $directions.* I don’t need $directions for my shit to work on Windows.
Want to see how to collect angry downvotes? Visit a post talking about how Microsoft is doing some evil new thing or how they’ve broken a feature. Merely comment this:
“I don’t have that issue. Never seen it.”
No rebuttals, no nothing, just “fuck you for saying so”. Angry new atheists.
I don’t give a crap what OS you use. A lot of us aren’t evangelizing anything, we’re just trying to bring people up-to-date on the current state of Linux, which is pretty good to be honest. That is then misinterpreted as elitism because tone of voice isn’t transmitted over text.
People are concerned about the direction Windows is going and a lot of us are justifiably mad about it. But mentioning Linux instead of linking to the debloat scripts and masgrave summons people that hate the Linux of 10-20 years ago.
I get it, but maybe there’s a reason?
When I lost my faith in religion I was annoying because it had wasted so much of my time and effort, as well as causing stress and creating issues where none existed. I wanted other people to feel as free as I did, and it was obvious that it was more reasonable to switch after I had, and it was easy.
When I lost my faith in Microsoft I was annoying because it had wasted so much of my time and effort, as well as causing stress and creating issues where none existed. I wanted other people to feel as free as I did, and it was obvious that it was more reasonable to switch after I had, and it was easy.
Maybe just test your reasoning. Try Linux, or test the boundaries of your faith. See how it feels. Maybe other people have a point, as annoying as they may be.
Personally, I don’t push the religion thing anymore. I don’t feel like it does much good and is a waste of my time. Pushing Linux though? Yeah, that does do good, for the people switching and for the ecosystem. The more people move off of Windows and other closed platforms the more open things become, and the more choices consumers get.
Feels like you bought into the MSCE religion of the early 2000’s and are annoyed at all the infidels that didn’t.
Man, I have 3 windows 11 desktops and a laptop. Sometime in the last month all of their edge browsers became “managed by my organization”… they’re all personal computers with no work info on them. And I can’t undo it. I’ve tried every trick on the internet. Fuck MS.
Did you use ShutUp10 or something similar? It says that when settings are changed via registry/group policy. It doesn’t actually have anything to do with your work.
You know I never really thought about it but do you think the spying tools these companies provide ever fail like the way their other products do?
Nah, if there’s one thing they thoroughly test, it’s the spying.
A-ha! So that’s where the development resources go. To where the money’s made.
Microsoft says that it is working on a fix but, for now, has provided a couple of workarounds to deal with the issue
Install Linux.
They could resolve many things if they did not push AI so hard, or making stupid things like removing the local account option, windows recall, etc…, but i guess SHAREHOLDERS.
Ah but there are also a lot of minor features in Windows 11 that aren’t really looking too good.
Completely off topic, but I hate when articles appear to link to original sources, but only link to their own site.
“Microsoft admitted that …” -> link to Microsoft’s admission? Nope, to a neowin article.
“Nvidia released a patch …” -> links to a neowin article instead of the patch.
“Microsoft KB 0000” -> surely this will link to the actual KB? Nope, neowin article.
I use windows 11 everyday, without issue. what exactly is broken?
Kind of a wide variety of things that varies from person to person in often absurd ways – broken in ways I’ve never seen Macs or Linux systems be, nor even Windows 10 and older.
- Explorer taking ~20-30 seconds to open a new window (fine once it’s open, until you want another window) (I’ve only suffered this on my work laptop for some reason)
- The “home” view being blank save for a weird expansion panel that’s empty – sometimes this can be solved by resetting ALL folder views in Explorer settings, other times it just stays broken after and randomly works later (I’ve repeatedly suffered this)
- Start menu being empty or not showing new additions to it, and pinning anything to start that wasn’t from right-clicking anything found in it just not pinning for ??? amounts of time (both)
- Randomly muting all audio input devices (home)
And that’s just my personal experiences. The ones I’ve seen others deal with is much weirder.
Honestly I’m buying more into the idea of how ostree distros work; Windows is like a very broken version of that anymore.
I’ve been using windows 11 for six months. when I hover over the taskbar, a phantom windows explorer window appears, but it’s not clickable and it disappears when I move the mouse away. my right hand monitor has a white box with a small ‘no’ symbol in it stuck in the middle of the screen. it doesn’t seem to derive from any running application and I cannot get rid of it. on the windows 10 install I ran before, the task manager totally stopped working, it just froze every time I opened it. I run Linux on all my other machines and stuff does go wrong, but it goes wrong in ways that make sense to me and which I can fix. on windows people just tell you to run sfc scannow and reinstall if it doesn’t work. that’s no way to live your life.
I had a random no symbol on my external monitor that was being caused by its OSD detecting microphone mute and showing an icon.
This certainly isn’t a fix, but if you try to screenshot the icon and it shows up, you’ll know it’s being drawn by the computer and not the monitor.
Might give you a direction to investigate :)
One I see daily at work is File Explorer adding an extra ‘window’ when you hover over the icon in the taskbar. If you click on it, nothing happens, and you cant close it either.
It doesn’t understand the concept of “no means no”.
At work I’ve had issues with the Start Bar not showing any/most programs and centering the one program that does show up (even though I have it left aligned). Then when I mouse over it, it’ll try to move to where it should be causing it to jump around and be unclickable.
I’ve also had the file explorer just stop working entirely.
This is on a pretty powerful dev laptop, so it’s not lack of resources.
That being said I’ve never heard of anyone else having that issue so it seems rare.
I’ll add, Clicking on running programs in the task bar and they refuse to become the active window. You need to work through them all to fine one that works before they all start working again.
The article is about a XAML bug, which affects a lot of core components, when used in a corporate setting.
