• tal@lemmy.todayOP
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    4 months ago

    I remember when it wasn’t uncommon to buy a prebuilt system and then immediately upgrade its memory with third party DIMMs to avoid paying the PC manufacturer’s premium on memory. Seeing that price relationship becoming inverted is a little bonkers. Though IIRC Framework’s memory-on-prebuilt-systems didn’t have much of a premium.

    I also wonder if it will push the market further towards systems with soldered memory or on-core memory.

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      I don’t see how it would push manufacturers to do that. I can see how it would make consumers more open to soldered RAM if RAM is so expensive there is no way you are going to upgrade it later. But, I would be interested to get your thoughts as I miss stuff that feels obvious I’m hindsight all the time.

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        If consumers aren’t going to or are much less likely to upgrade, then that affects demand from them, and one would expect manufacturers to follow what consumers demand.

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      I’ll never forget buying my first MacBook in '07 and asking the guy how much it would cost to bump the RAM from 1Gb to 2Gb. He told me in no uncertain terms that I’d be better off looking online for a cheaper price.

      Well, in the intervening years they certainly have closed that loophole.

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        I worked at a knock-off Apple Store in the PNW from 2009 to 2013 and I told this same line to MANY people. The thing about being an “Apple Specialist” is that we sold more than Apple did, including “aftermarket” RAM modules to do that upgrade on-site for customers, saving those customer money AND netting us more profit than if we had sold them the Apple SKU with more RAM. When Apple closed this loophole it was not just at the expense of end-users, but their channel partners too.

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          Yeah, I ended up dropping 4Gb in that one. For some reason it could only see 3Gb, but it made it immensely more useful. It got me through a radio production degree and only got replaced because I happened to find myself in a position to be able to afford a 13" Pro a few years later. In fact, it’s still in a box somewhere.

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      The Framework desktop already has soldered ram. That’s because AMD only sells that CPU like that.

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      I missed all of this, but mostly caught up now. Hopefully Feamework starts making some better decisions on who they align with.

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      They published this blog post that lists all the projects they supported, and calls for the community to submit projects to support in a form.

      The blog post did not acknowledge the situation, but the list showed that they stopped supporting Omarchy and kept support for Hyprland. It was noted during the drama that Hyprland’s toxicity levels have dropped since they set up a moderation team. Their reputation might not represent them as they are currently.

      I stopped following the events at this point, so if something happened after that, I’m not aware of it

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        Framework has been financially supporting far-right neo-nazi developers. When they were asked for an explanation by the community they didn’t say “we condemn hate and will look into that” — instead this is what they said.

        We deliberately create a big tent, because we want open source software to win. We don’t partner based on individuals’ or organizations’ beliefs, values, or political stances outside of their alignment with us on increasing the adoption of open source software.

        https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-right-racists/75986