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Here we go… It took them some time but ads is going to be inside chat gpt as well. And impossible to block.
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And the enshitification cycle continues…
Do you think it’s possible to run the cycle too quickly? Like, shouldn’t you make sure your product has been
widelymaximally adopted first before you make it shittier?May be that’s just hopium
Even the enshittification cycle got enshittified.
Glorious.
Late stage enshitification.
yes, this is how bubbles pop
Well, you go as wide as you can, then try to cash in.
Looks like, given that porn and ads are both imminent, they think this is maximum adoption.
Most obvious thing to ever happen since ads being added to Instagram feeds. It’s a search engine replacement. It was going to end up with basic advertisments eventually. Then targeted advertisements. Then sponsored results as sneaky as they can be in the case of suggesting the best solution/product. Free open source models and stuff like proton and duckduckgo if you really want to use AI search engines
If the product is free…
BigTech 101
They actually put ads in paid products also now. :)
Never enough ads, never enough revenue.
How soon till they put ads in the ads
The businesses who run ads must themselves pass through a slop-page littered with ads to be able to index their ads.
Hmm stunned disbelief, I tell ya. How on earth did anyone ever think this could happen, big corpo putting ads inside the most hyper targeted machine the world has ever seen. How could they ever decide to do this
I suppose identifying AI is going to be a lot easier when users copy and paste answers that contain some sort of ad roll.
It’s gonna be really hard to argue your Grapes of Wrath essay wasn’t AI generated when you submit without proofreading and don’t catch the sponsored ad for Walmart+ grocery delivery.
Ublock origin. Hold my beer!
What if they bake the ads into the replies?
You: Hey ChatGPT, what time is it?
ChatGPT:
Thanks, I just rewatched that movie because of your comment.
In case I don’t see ya: good afternoon, good evening and good night.
You think they haven’t started that?
most likely someway to detect it and remove the elements.
Not if it’s done at the semantic level. If they instruct the model to only mention this brand of pasta, and give it a few arguments why it’s the best, it will gladly incorporate that in its response and you won’t have any way to detect that.
Haha yeah maybe there is hope, somehow. :)
No matter how profitable a company is (which doesn’t apply here) it can’t resist increasing profits even more. They are all like an AI being told to make paperclips and not stopping until they have converted the entire mass of the universe into paperclips.
Luckily humanity will only be able to destroy its own planet at least. I would be a lot more worried if our behavior here would affect other worlds. But we are a long way from that, thank god.
“You want to know how to combat your depression? Sure, but what about a cold Pepsi first?”
Lol :)
I feel like nobody read the article. It mentioned an “ad carousel” which would be a fairly standard way to offset costs on free plans. I don’t see that specifically as being enshitification. Now, if they start altering AI responses, that is definitely enshitification. I have no doubt they will eventually get there, but I don’t think that’s what this article is about.
Excellent question! When I am sad about my dad dying, nothing helps me like the cool refreshing taste of an ice cold Coca-Cola™. Click here to buy one on Doordash™ right now!
I think we’ve hit the end times for AI. The biggest player in the space OpenAI couldn’t be profitable by selling its services to business, nor directly to consumers. Subscription moneys nor licensing its models is working too. So the last avenue they have is this, shilling to marketers hoping for scrap.
On top of Nvidia having to stop selling RAM I think the breaks are about to hit AI and hard once the current supply runs out. I wonder how long that could take?
Too bad larger LLMs require ungodly amounts of VRAM, or self-hosting would be a good alternative. LLMs have their uses, but they’re not useful enough to put up with ads.
You’re having a conversation in ChatGPT and all of a sudden you’re being bombarded with questions like how swell it’d be to buy something from Amazon or play this shitty-ass app game with MTX.
What a timeline…
Sounds like my AI usage is gonna fall from “infrequent” to “never”, if the ads are indeed unblockable…
And on that day, nobody was surprised.
This is a great way to drive users to competitors.
FYI https://www.deepseek.com/en and https://chat.qwen.ai/ don’t have ads.
If you’re not paying, you’re the product. Even on Chinese services. Alibaba does train my favorite local models though (Qwen).
Both models are open source
Indeed, and I give them credit. China is unironically leading the world in scientific progress. I wouldn’t recommend using their services though, for privacy reasons (same with the US).
