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Here we go… It took them some time but ads is going to be inside chat gpt as well. And impossible to block.
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And the enshitification cycle continues…
Do you think it’s possible to run the cycle too quickly? Like, shouldn’t you make sure your product has been
widelymaximally adopted first before you make it shittier?May be that’s just hopium
Even the enshittification cycle got enshittified.
Glorious.
Late stage enshitification.
yes, this is how bubbles pop
Well, you go as wide as you can, then try to cash in.
Looks like, given that porn and ads are both imminent, they think this is maximum adoption.
Most obvious thing to ever happen since ads being added to Instagram feeds. It’s a search engine replacement. It was going to end up with basic advertisments eventually. Then targeted advertisements. Then sponsored results as sneaky as they can be in the case of suggesting the best solution/product. Free open source models and stuff like proton and duckduckgo if you really want to use AI search engines
If the product is free…
BigTech 101
They actually put ads in paid products also now. :)
Never enough ads, never enough revenue.
How soon till they put ads in the ads
The businesses who run ads must themselves pass through a slop-page littered with ads to be able to index their ads.
Hmm stunned disbelief, I tell ya. How on earth did anyone ever think this could happen, big corpo putting ads inside the most hyper targeted machine the world has ever seen. How could they ever decide to do this
I suppose identifying AI is going to be a lot easier when users copy and paste answers that contain some sort of ad roll.
It’s gonna be really hard to argue your Grapes of Wrath essay wasn’t AI generated when you submit without proofreading and don’t catch the sponsored ad for Walmart+ grocery delivery.
No matter how profitable a company is (which doesn’t apply here) it can’t resist increasing profits even more. They are all like an AI being told to make paperclips and not stopping until they have converted the entire mass of the universe into paperclips.
Luckily humanity will only be able to destroy its own planet at least. I would be a lot more worried if our behavior here would affect other worlds. But we are a long way from that, thank god.
Ublock origin. Hold my beer!
What if they bake the ads into the replies?
You: Hey ChatGPT, what time is it?
ChatGPT:
Thanks, I just rewatched that movie because of your comment.
In case I don’t see ya: good afternoon, good evening and good night.
You think they haven’t started that?
most likely someway to detect it and remove the elements.
Not if it’s done at the semantic level. If they instruct the model to only mention this brand of pasta, and give it a few arguments why it’s the best, it will gladly incorporate that in its response and you won’t have any way to detect that.
Haha yeah maybe there is hope, somehow. :)
“You want to know how to combat your depression? Sure, but what about a cold Pepsi first?”
Lol :)
You’re having a conversation in ChatGPT and all of a sudden you’re being bombarded with questions like how swell it’d be to buy something from Amazon or play this shitty-ass app game with MTX.
What a timeline…
I feel like nobody read the article. It mentioned an “ad carousel” which would be a fairly standard way to offset costs on free plans. I don’t see that specifically as being enshitification. Now, if they start altering AI responses, that is definitely enshitification. I have no doubt they will eventually get there, but I don’t think that’s what this article is about.
Excellent question! When I am sad about my dad dying, nothing helps me like the cool refreshing taste of an ice cold Coca-Cola™. Click here to buy one on Doordash™ right now!
Too bad larger LLMs require ungodly amounts of VRAM, or self-hosting would be a good alternative. LLMs have their uses, but they’re not useful enough to put up with ads.
I think we’ve hit the end times for AI. The biggest player in the space OpenAI couldn’t be profitable by selling its services to business, nor directly to consumers. Subscription moneys nor licensing its models is working too. So the last avenue they have is this, shilling to marketers hoping for scrap.
On top of Nvidia having to stop selling RAM I think the breaks are about to hit AI and hard once the current supply runs out. I wonder how long that could take?
And on that day, nobody was surprised.
Sounds like my AI usage is gonna fall from “infrequent” to “never”, if the ads are indeed unblockable…
Rapid enshittification, people will just use on of the others on the long list of alternatives. I currently recommend either DeepSeek v3.2-Exp or Kimi K2 Thinking.
Why use AI at all? The environmental costs alone should be a dealbreaker.
We aren’t going to stop AI usage, but what we can do is educate people on how to use the most efficient models. Both DeepSeek v3.20-Exp and Kimi K2 Thinking are significantly more efficient than Claude/Gemini/ChatGPT.
We may not remove it completely but we could definitely limit or even wipe out AI data centers even on just a municipal level. Limits on resources used and strict permit requirements would be enough to shit can them in a variety of ways.
Yea the data center stuff is an absolute bubble, and models are becoming significantly cheaper rapidly. We won’t need all these data centers because reasonably usable AI models will be so efficient you can run them on a powerful gaming computer. Not everyone needs the absolute most powerful smartest model like Gemini 3.
The problem with AI is largely the data center shit. Nobody has a problem with Josh pissing around with a learning algorithm to detect when to run his air conditioner optimally, what people are pissed about is building fuck off worthless data centers for bullshit thats almost certainly not worth the corpo hype.
Obviously they aren’t completely worthless, there is worth in them being liquidated and sold off.
Those already contain ads for the CCP
True, if you ask about the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre and other things typically censored by the Chinese government they won’t answer. But interestingly, there are variants that have been uncensored, and those models will answer openly if you use something like together.ai versus kimi.com. Because they are open source, they are easily uncensored.
Thanks, that’s nice to know.
