TL;DR: Mozilla’s translation bot on Support Mozilla (that is currently overwriting user contributions is based on the closed source, copyright infringing LLM, Google Gemini. This is in spite of Mozilla claiming that they are at the forefront of open source AI, and belies their exhortations to choose to build open source AI and data sets. Although Mozilla has experience in attracting open contributions for data sets in projects like Common Voice, Mozilla is using a closed data set to overwrite open contributions. Since (paid) Gemini queries do not train the model, Mozillians can expect to correct errors every time the bot automatically updates an article.
Google puts up a major chunk of the funding Mozzia gets in a year. If you don’t want them being the default choice in search or having your queries fed to their bots then start putting up the money to make their support no longer required.
Not really conductive as long as most funds are siphoned by the C-suite ranks. Get rid of the C-fat first, maybe even turn Mozilla into a co-op, then have the People fund it.
Voting with your wallet doesn’t work when you are the product. They don’t care about your money when google’s will dwarf any amount individuals could hope to raise, even collectively. Nothing prevents them from just taking both your money and google’s and changing absolutely nothing.
It’s too late to give (life) support. Web browsers are a dying ecosystem as it’s too complex to create competition. Why not abandon them and instead support software that does a seperatable part of what modern browsers do?
HTML is old and weird and its browsers have a bad ecosystem. The way to go would be to ignore xkcd 927 and make a new standard and a pilot browser for it. The hard part would be getting people to use it.
Do we have a web browser that uses Servo engine yet?
Not even remotely close yet unfortunately.
Yes, Servo, but in very early stages.
Most website do not run on servo
The first ( without the ) is making me go crazy haha
God I’m happy to not be the only one. I read the thing the times trying to figure out where it was closing it
#Error
For me the requirements in a browser are:
- Works without many issues
- Has extensions (or built-in features) that do what NoScript, Ublock Origin, Dark Reader, CanvasBlocker, and Redirector do on LibreWolf
- Relatively secure
- Open source and free from corporate evil
- Not annoying in any major ways
When the required extensions get made for Falkon, I’m probably switching
When they are in late beta or ready for use, I will try Servo-based browsers and Ladybird
currently I use LibreWolf
I daily driver QuteBrowser and have for awhile now. I like it. does everything I need it to do and the vim style navigation is awesome.
Sure there are some quirks that can be solved via userscripts and trust me I have a lot written for it but everything that requires an extension in firefox or chrome i have working on Qutebrowser. I don’t get adds with youtube in fact dare I saw I have it set up better than what you could get on Firefox or Chrome, I have my password management via bitwarden, it all just works. And the dev, The Compiler, is great and is always on top of issues that come up.
there’s yet to be any site i’ve come across that just doesn’t work.
LibreWolf has been quite good to me. I just allow cookies on my most used websites and it’s been perfectly fine to use.
contrast with vivaldi explicitly taking a no ai stand in the browser.
But also not open source.
True. Still, afaik, they haven’t done anything shady.
Which is entirely not the point.
Some of it is.
Open source is like being pregnant - you either are are you aren’t. Vivaldi isn’t.
This is wrong. There wouldn’t be as many open source license if it was as clear cut.
There are many open source licenses. Being closed source isn’t one of them.
What i’m saying is, there are many interpretations of open source.
So, neither is Linux?
Wanna show me the free version of Vivaldi?
Here you go. Like Linux, where “everything but drivers” is open source, everything but the UI is open source.
So what is that, a build of Chromium with no Vivaldi features? What is the point exactly? I can download Chromium by itself already. I’ll even get edit history, unlike the big tarball that Vivaldi gives me.
Depends on the distro and whether you want your wireless card to work or not
Sigh. At this rate I can see a day where I end up switching to WebKitGTK’s MiniBrowser as my main rather than having it as a “secret” backup.
I won’t use regular Vanilla FF. I do like Zen tho!
Time to switch to LibreWolf or something else.
Can I use that to sync passwords, history, etc. between phone and PC in some way of form, even if self-hosted?
I’ve been on librewolf for years, and as long as I’m running the FlatPak version, all Firefox extensions work. Having said that, you do have a few options to sync. One is using your Firefox account (I don’t suggest you do because of Mozilla’s BS over the past year or so, but you would be sharing way less stuff this way). In my case, the only thing I want synced in browsers is the bookmarks, so I use floccus extension in every browser, floccus app in android, and host them all in a self-hosted linkwarden instance. I hope that helps.
Mozilla is over.
The money from Google was surely what killed their browser. I’m not saying there was a behind the scenes deal. They just got lazy and spent Google’s money is stupid ways instead of improving their product so that they could gain a real userbase.
Imagine if they spent that money towards just the browser (not possible, but imagine anyways), we could be in a very different place where Chrome doesn’t have 99% (or whatever it is) market share.
Firefox is a good browser, but where could they have been today if it was prioritised over paying the CEO millions for nothing? They have recently been sorta catching up, i’ve seen a lot of updates that actually include features I use, but I think it’s too late.
Time for one of the new built from the ground up browsers to shine when complete. I still stand by Firefox and recommend it, but as soon as their is an open competitor that is production ready, I’m outta here.
They have undoubtly done amazing things for the web, but their idiocy is astounding sometimes and I don’t wanna stay on a sinking ship. I’d rather use a new browser that helps keep the web secure, safe a pleasant for us all without annoyances or dumb beurocracy.
The rot has set in. There’s no getting it out, now.
The rot has set in in 2017.
You may have misunderstood me: when I said “the rot has set in” I was referring to the end point. “The rot has set“ would refer to the beginning point.
It is a confusing way of speaking (which I only employed for style), and our collective confusion is a great example of why we don’t speak this way anymore. Lol.
I see. Not a native speaker here, but working on it! Sorry.
Native speaker here, and that’s the first time I’ve ever heard such a distinction. Nothing on Google seems to back it up either, so take the asshole’s explanation with a grain of salt.
Rather than coming to a common understanding, you decided, instead, to insult me.
And how do you think I should respond to that?
you decided, instead, to insult me.
???
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How in the world did you read an insult in that?
I’m sorry for your troubles. Best wishes!
Is there any good alternative to FF that is cross device compatible and keep my sessions between said devices, but without me having to press anything more than “Install” or to type “apt-get install firefox”?
I hear a lot of these newer open source friendly browser, but switching between my pc/notebook/phone/tablet, is a requirement. I’d love to find something that fit that so I could switch.
^(edit: typo)
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Firefox Fanboys still: LEST IT NOT CHROME!
Oh no! Better delete that woke tranny Firefox and install Brave™ the Crypto AI browser.
Am I doing Lemmy right?
No, that’s reddit. Here we’re all just depressed as we watch all the good things fall apart.
Why brave lol it’s not even an option
Librewolf for now
I know. Brave is always driving negative campaigns against mozilla. This whole nothingburger seems just like yet another ambush campaign.
Also, you idiots are too stupid to recognize sarcasm.
