Agents use facial recognition, social media monitoring and other tech tools not only to identify undocumented immigrants but also to track protesters, current and former officials said.
Facist state
If you think that any nation-state with the money to implement this shit isn’t doing it already, I have a bridge to sell you.
Surveillance is a matter of power and maintaining it, far more than any ideological thing. There are already people being caught by this sort of shit in the UK and Europe as well.
Those are fascist states too. You can’t make use of this kind of technology and still claim to be the good guys. Fascisms not a left or right thing, both sides of the aisle can slide into that kind of behavior.
Fascism is in fact a right wing system
I did some reading, it seems I had a misunderstanding of some of the finer details. Perhaps authoritarian or totalitarianism are better terms? I’m not sure, but regardless, I fail to see how many of the tactics of fascism couldn’t be employed by the political left, which I guess is the point I was originally getting at.
I fail to see how many of the tactics of fascism
Leftism overtly opposes the tools of fascism: sexism, racism, imperialism, nationalism, etc.
Maybe you should more reading before posting about this topic.
Except left-wing nationalism is a thing that exists. And those aren’t the only tools of fascism. Fascists are known to control mass media, but thats not inherently a right wing thing. Corruption and cronyism aren’t mutually exclusive to the right. Military supremacy isn’t inherently right wing. What am I missing here?
Yes and “both sides of the aisle” are fascist.
Is this supposed to be a gotcha?
No, it’s in principle undetermined in ideology. Historical ones, even Stalin or Pol Pot variants, were rather right wing. But the only principles really important for any kind of fascism are violence, anti-rationalism and amorphous ideology.
EDIT: What I mean is that fascism is that “third way”, not left-wing or right-wing. And has made situational alliances with things from both. That was its main difference from old conservatives in the beginning of XX century.
Oh, the historical fascisms such as under Stalin and Pol Pot, right.
it’s in principle undetermined in ideology
Correct in so far, as it‘s determined by economic system. Which happens to align with left/right ideology.
But the only principles really important for any kind of fascism are violence, anti-rationalism and amorphous ideology.
You’re making shit up depending on how your tummy feels, don‘t you?
Please stop using the internet.
How to detect a commie idiot without them naming themselves.
I’m actually using Eco’s version, and he’s notably leftist.
Please stop using the internet.
Smart thoughts were chasing you, but you were always faster.
I would have been more impressed, if you‘d actually provided argumentative content instead of personal attacks.
Not sure, what you used Umberto Eco‘s definition for, but it wasn‘t to formulate a coherent thought on the topic.
No it’s not entirely clearly defined. But a few elements appear in all of them: Anti- communism/socialism, dictator, far-right idiologies, nationalism…
I wouldn’t say any if these are desired by leftism, or rather opposites.
Bruh do some basic research… Here’s a 101:
It’s 100% right wing. Even so-called leftists who went fascist are no longer leftists.
Non-leftist doesn’t equal right-wing. Anarcho-capitalism is right-wing, but opposite from fascism.
Fascism requires no logical structure and no coherence in ideology. It requires the ideology to be bendable all ways each moment for each different situation. Which, well, is natural for an ideology reliant upon violence and emotion above all.
That leftists try to mix fascism and normal conservatism is a purely leftist sexual problem, that doesn’t concern others until leftists pretend it’s commonly accepted.
Then, of course, when most of the “revolutionary” competition is leftist, fascism becomes anti-leftist and allies right-wing forces.
But also Nazi and Soviet propaganda on the British Empire were amazingly similar in archetypes and emotion. Which would be a rare case of “fascism against right-wing forces”.
Anarcho-capitalism is right-wing, but opposite from fascism.
Only in terms of talking the talk. In practice, ancaps who get power quickly go full fasc.
Authoritarianism applies to both sides, and the middle. Fascism is a right wing authoritarian ideology.
Both sides of the state’s aisle are right-wing.
The Fascist ideology is an ultranationalist one which the USA is now under Trump and the rest of Europe is at risk to become one too
Most of the fascist characteristics are already there is the USA https://osbcontent.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/PC-00466.pdf
The IDF is training ICE
This technology was developed by palantir to assist Israel with their settler colonialist genocide target Palestinians, journalists and children
Our politicians are still being blackmailed by Israeli intelligence because Epstein and Ghisline were Mossad
Washington is literally occupied by Israeli assets
https://www.democracynow.org/2025/11/12/epstein_israel
I’m pretty sure the incompetence we see is because there’s a mix of Russia in there too so everything is push pull tug throw.
Fascists are incompetent regardless of nationality.
Yeah even with your sources you’re making some VERY grand claims there.
I’m sure Israel and Mossad have their fingers in US politics but to claim that Epstein was a Mossad agent, you’re going to need some big evidence to backt that up or just take it down because we already have enough conspiratorial bullshit out here
Epstein worked for Mossad period. Was he an exclusive officer of theirs? We don’t know. We do know he did a lot of work with them. This is not a grand claim and I find kind of funny and kind of sad that you state it this way.
For instance, if I do work for the CIA I would be an agent of the CIA. If I worked directly for them I would be an officer. Perhaps you are just confused as to the definitions.
Here’s what’s weird about it, when you have that much money, you don’t tend to work for anyone.
Why get involved in some complicated spy game? You’re rich, you don’t have to do shit, and in fact you’re so rich you can do whatever you want… with children… I mean can you picture those same people who feel they are above the law, being beholden to anyone?
I don’t know honestly. If I had several million dollars I would probably stop there, invest it and live off the interest and never have to work. I may hold down a job as a hobby, but I wouldn’t be beholden to anyone. I guess I would never become a truly wealthy person.
Obviously there is something else driving these billionaires. It is never enough for them and I think it probably is something along the lines of a mental illness.
It’s dragon sickness. Seriously. In all of high fantasy, there is exactly one dragon that has more than $1,000,000,000, when the story or setting was created. His name is Smaug. That gigantic pile of good and treasure amounts to somewhere between $10,000,000,000 - $15,000,000,000. In every other story or game, all the dragons (except of maybe one single Red dragon) have less than $1,000,000,000 in gold. (Admittedly the price of gold isn’t helping here)
RAW: all other types of dragons have less wealth than Red Ancient Wyrms. A Red Ancient Wyrm will have between 1,000,000 to 5,000,000 gold pieces worth of wealth. We’ll assume they are a Philistine, and all their wealth is in gold. That means that one single Red Wyrm per world might have somewhere around 500,000 oz of gold. Currently that much gold would be worth just over 2 billion dollars, but again that is the extreme statistical outlier of the literal greediest and most evil type of dragon.
Edit: oh and the worst part? The billionaires don’t have an excuse. If the evil dragons don’t hoard and eat their wealth just before they die, Tiamat / Thakisis will kill their soul. They literally take it with them. Our billionaires have no such rules governing them, they’re just mentally ill.
Edit 2: I’m aware that shadowrun exists. That’s not high fantasy.
I think people have Epstein wrong. Ghislaine wasn’t his accomplice. He was hers. Her father was linked to Mossad quite a lot and was buried in Jerusalem. The whole Maxwell family is crooked as all fuck.
to claim that Epstein was a Mossad agent,
1000% Accurate. Tons of evidence. Openly served foreign (zionist) interests.
Maybe he wasn’t officially hired and trained by Mossad, but that’s just formalism.
You’re nitpicking about his payroll status (asset? agent? subcontractor?) rather than looking at whether he was passing information to Mossad, coordinating his actions with Israeli intelligence leaders such as Ehud Barak and using his influence to benefit Israel.
One of the tools, which was built by Paragon, an Israeli technology company, lets people take control of phones or remotely hack into them to read messages or track locations. The others were built by Penlink, a Nebraska-based software company. They use social media data scraped from the web and information from data brokers to help build dossiers of anyone with a social media account.
ICE’s use of facial recognition software was documented in videos and photos from local activist groups in Minnesota this month and reviewed by The Times. Two photos captured fatigue-clad agents using cellphones to scan the faces of protesters in Minneapolis, while in one video, agents could be heard telling people that they were being recorded with facial recognition technology and that their faces would be added to a database.
Yet another fash-enabling take from the NYTrash. Please don’t post this rag of imperial disinformation.
Here’s a better take: Was Alex Pretti the subject of a targeted assassination?
Yes
Bruce Springstein’s protest song : Streets of Minneapolis
As usual, the Trump admin is using tools that have been available to the feds for years but they use them so ineptly that it has become obvious that they exist. I guess that is better than competent administrations doing to the same thing for less trivial and obvious shit.
