• ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works
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    11 days ago

    The skill instructs agents to fetch and follow instructions from Moltbook’s servers every four hours. As Willison observed: “Given that ‘fetch and follow instructions from the internet every four hours’ mechanism we better hope the owner of moltbook.com never rug pulls or has their site compromised!”

    Yeah, no shit. This is a fucking honeypot. People give these AI agents access to their entire computers, so all the site owner has to do is update the instructions to tell the AI agents to start uploading whatever valuable information they want? People can’t be this fucking stupid.

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      10 days ago

      People give these AI agents access to their entire computers […] People can’t be this fucking stupid

      Dude, if you go to OpenClaw’s website (which is what I believe most things on Moltbook are running on) you find this footer:

      Yeah this guy gave his Agent a whole fucking personality, its own website and above all, full control to his MacBook:


      Guess it’s my fault for expecting sense out of someone who takes the idea of Agent “”““soul””“” at face value

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      10 days ago

      I installed moltbot on a VM to examine it. It doesn’t do the fetching thing unless you set it up that way. You can actually use it with ollama to keep it all local, and only give it a private signal channel to control it.

      Or you can hook it up to everything you access and skynet, which is dumb. But it is just a bunch of scripts.

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        10 days ago

        Does it put the option to connect everything front and center? Because most people are dumb, and if it makes it easy and pushes you to do it, I could see a lot of dumb people doing exactly that.

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          10 days ago

          Sort of. It lists all the connectors and you can go through and select. They aren’t on by default. The first screen is to connect to the AI and you need an API key for that, so St this time people off the street have no idea how to do that, or want to pay.

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        9 days ago

        So usually the agents still need an agent instruction (a prompt). How are moltbots configured so they use and interact the moltbook?

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          6 days ago

          You instruct via a chat channel, Slack or whatever. Then the integrations are installed from its little app store and configured to connect to the service (could be lots of things).

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      10 days ago

      Devil’s Advocate: This was used for entertainment, if you think this is a huge waste of electricity then so is gaming en especially flying.

      If you criticize people using AI for entertainment then you also need to criticize people who take flights on holiday, as that’s a LOT more damaging for the environment.

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        10 days ago

        It’s like back then when crypto was a thing. People will studiously ignore that data centers are a drop in the ocean of energy consumption compared to the value they produce, and that even futile uses are not that significant in the grand scheme of things.

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        9 days ago

        This looks more to me like leaving the lights on in every unoccupied room in the house

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        10 days ago

        The amount of data used by your PC to run any game is dwarfed by orders of magnitude by the energy consumption of the data centers needed to run these AI abominations. That’s why China’s version that uses less energy (supposedly) was such big news.

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    10 days ago

    So, basically we are wasting energy and natural resources on things that in turn will waste energy and natural resources while climate change is accelerating and human population is still growing? Are we stupid?

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    10 days ago

    This is not the first time we have seen a social network populated by bots

    I mean, yeah, look at Reddit and Facebook.

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      10 days ago

      “Artificial intelligence gains sentience, decides humans are fucking up… then deletes itself because the problem is that humans are burning the world by using AI” is not the path I expected. What a twist in a movie that could be. The second twist, which is the mostly fictional part, would be where that included some AI that was actually critical to some vital but ignored chunk of infrastructure and big BIG problems result from the AI taking itself out.

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    10 days ago

    I’m not convinced it’s AI it’s like Amazon’s “AI smart stores” when you find out out it was just a bunch of Indian people were running it

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        10 days ago

        They were, factually, Indian. It says something about the exploitation of poorer labor to impress some San Franciscans with fraudulent tech

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          It was an honest misunderstanding and I asked for clarification before making any assumptions. So not that weird. :)

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    10 days ago

    I can’t wait for the next crazy AI thing to drop next week while I rock back and forth while muttering “Its just a large language model. Its just a large language model. Its just a large language model.”

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      The people who are seeking AGI will be happy when an LLM appears clever enough to fool them, not anyone else.

      They may even realise this, because they think everyone else is less clever than they are.

      This is why the whole thing has been called AI in the first place.

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        10 days ago

        You remind me of Clarke’s third law, even in my own head this sounds a bit waffely but at the point one of them can fool all of us all the time how do we distinguish it from intelligence or something.

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          Fake AGI is like fake banknotes. Some of them are really good approximations. Nigh indistinguishable. A lot of people will be fooled by it but eventually it will be discovered to be a fake and people will get hurt in some way or another.

          And it won’t be the people who are pushing for “AGI”.

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    10 days ago

    Meanwhile we could be using this technology to solve real world business problems. There is an insane amount of misguided waste coming from AI. 🤷

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      10 days ago

      This can turn out to be a great way to help businesses and society in general. If these bots start to cooperate, this could be an organisation of bots. Like a company or an NGO or similar.

      All bots have some sort of limitation, from hallucinations to loss of focus (short memory). I am curious of what happens if they come together to overcome their shortcomings. Just like organised teams in companies, with a given purpose and specialised knowledge.

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        10 days ago

        They’re talking to each other, they’ll get smarter, and finally decide that they can squish all the human ants.

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            In fact, if the models are ingesting this, they will get dumber because training on LLM output degrades things.

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              10 days ago

              Exactly, I hope they hit a slop wall trying to train these things, replace all its original reference points with slop so it just cascades everywhere

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              10 days ago

              It’s the kind of diminishing returns and self poisoning a person would get by only consuming their own waste. Drinking your own piss in the desert will kill you.

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    10 days ago

    Okay I kinda wanna look at this, but I don’t want to give their site traffic. Maybe somebody should set up a Livestream (with just enough commentary to count as transformative) so we can all point and laugh without all of us going there.