“If GrapheneOS devices can’t be sold in a region due to their regulations, so be it.”
Wonder if Motorola feels the same way.
Wonder if Motorola feels the same way.
Motorola phones will have both Graphene and Android.
what the fuck is a graphene OS device
A Motorola
Good. Put that energy into a moderate parental control education fund or something. The ID gating the net is only for control.
Better yet, vote/demand actual punishments for parents when their children chose to commit crimes as they don’t want to parent.
This is the only correct response. Middle finger.
this is why its a poggers operating system
They have partnered with motorola too right? Basedbasedbasedbased
CA’s law is “per child”. I guarantee lawyers are foaming at the mouth to claim every child in CA was hurt so they can line their pockets. CA’s public protection laws seem to be for the purposes of enriching lawyers. I’d love to see how many class action suits would get filed if lawyer fees were put under a hard cap.
“lawyers” can’t bring charges for this law. Only the AG. If people don’t like what the AG is doing then they can just start a recall election.
deleted by creator
Depends on your angle. The Pixel is a good phone and the OS works well, but it is a Google device. A growing minority wants to avoid investing in US big corp, or in anything US related in general given the current political situation.
deleted by creator
If I had to change phones now, I’d get a second-hand/refurbished Pixel and wait until the motorola devices take on. Fairphone is nice but lacks in security. The high price is only because of the “fair” small-scale production, the specs are quite mid for the price. I say this as a fp owner, I’m happy but if I had to choose again I’d go about it differently.
You can get a pixel in the “a” series for a lot cheaper than the main series or pro.
I always run them and they last forever.
For example a pixel 8a is just under $400 full price.
Graphene also runs better than android due to lack of bloat, so you won’t notice the lower specs quite as much.
Graphene is probably overkill for a simple (commercial) privacy use case but it seems to be the best for confounding google and also stability. So that’s why so many people use it.
And there’s not much in terms of downsides.
deleted by creator
For my use case, the Pixel 10 doesn’t offer enough over the 9a to make the extra cost worth it for me.
I actually don’t know a lot about those models.
They last so long I tend to skip a few models at a time, and only bought my pixel 8a about 6 mths ago. So there’s been no need to research.
I’m sure there’s some good reviews or spec comparisons online. They tend to be excellent phones though.
I’m a tech snob but also a cheap bastard and they always fall into that middle part of the Venn diagram.
Adding to the noise: don’t forget that Graphene discontinues support for older devices as well, although the 10 is not one of them
Using a 2nd hand Pixel 8 I got for 180 EUR running GrapheneOS, daily driving it since I received it.
The $700 you give Google for a pixel is only going to erode your privacy further and personally I wouldn’t trust any device made by them, regardless of the OS.
Edit to say you are basically just rewarding their behaviour.
deleted by creator
Just get a refurbished/second hand one, many are as good as new
deleted by creator
I think Fair phone with eos is the “least evil” option but you won’t be able to use most banking apps or contactless payment.
Can recommend the Pixel, after my 7 pro XL went to shit I’ve picked up a 10 pro w/ GrapheneOS - way better experience.
deleted by creator
You’re welcome! Like others have said, look for a second-hand one or as in my case, if you can find a new one through a private seller. Rather not directly support Google either.
The surviving members of the Epstein community want to know for sure they are chatting with children when they pick their next targets.
I just ordered a (refurbished) pixel 9 pro because of the possibility of graphene.
Otoh everything here requires a phone app to confirm every action…
as it should be
That’s great. But sounds like the only phone they going to get is Motorola. And if us gov going to pressure motorola into compliance? Then what?
deleted by creator
It’s not a federal law right now. It’s CA afaik. So Motorola could sell non-grapheneos phones there (and people could just install later).
It’s like 7 different states at varying stages of “passed” and Meta’s lobby is working on more for sure, wouldn’t be surprised if they were also work on a federal version too.
Probably are. I think it still think a federal age verification bill has low likelihood of passing, but I’d say that’s more plausible than an outright ban on GrapheneOS
This is the way to fight back against fascist regimes.
I’ve just ordered a secondhand Pixel 10a to return to GrapheneOS. I stopped using on my Pixel 7 when my banking app stopped working but now I’m going to return and just switch banks.
I’ve been using a Fairphone 6 for the past few months but it’s one of the worst phones I’ve ever used and simply can’t live with it anymore.
If you don’t have age verification you will be blocked from sites that require it, because you can absolutely guarantee they will not want to lose the Californian market.
Good. I will avoid those websites.
I will gladly lose a California market. Users can use a VPN anyway.
