- cross-posted to:
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- privacy@lemmy.ml
- cross-posted to:
- degoogle@lemmy.ml
- privacy@lemmy.ml
Google confirms its latest update can scan all your photos to “use actual images of you and your loved ones” in AI image generation. That means Gemini seeing who you know and what you do. You likely have tens or hundreds of thousands of photos. They’re all exposed if you update.
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I warned most of my family and friends this was going to happen when I de-Googled and set up Immich and they all said I was paranoid.
They say you are paranoid after releasing them these news.
Why search for a doctor’s appointment when Google has access to all your calendar events. Why search for a party invite when it reads all your emails. And why search for a specific photo of you and your loved ones to create an image, when it sees all your photos.
They try very hard to sell this as something positive and not the privacy invasive nightmare it is.
I went back to Polaroid for my nudes.
I’ve gone even further back, having mine painted on Greek pottery
I rub mine out with charcoal and tree sap all over the wall.
Can I see?
Just don’t shake them after they come out
But I was told to “shake it off” by the writers of ancient lore…
Outkast lied to us??
GrapheneOS works great for me. Not a lot you can do on stock android that you can’t do on GrapheneOS. I would highly recommend anyone looking for privacy to look into it. Very very easy to install. Just make sure you have a Pixel phone that is unlocked. I’ve been using it as my daily driver for two years now.
GrapheneOS isn’t a replacement for Google Photos though? What do you use for photo backups? (Immich seems like the obvious answer, but I’d like to know if there’s more options out there)
It let’s you run Google Photos without network permissions and with storage scopes limiting it to certain folders.
Does the photo search still work offline? It doesn’t for me. That seems like it’d be the only reason to stick with that app if you’re not using the cloud storage, otherwise I might as well just use a basic file browser.
I use google photos to pull up old pics that have already been uploaded for a long time. Google photos requires you to share your entire library otherwise it doesn’t let you view photos from the cloud, but GOS let’s you tell google photos that you’re sharing your whole library when you actually aren’t. Google doesn’t have access to any of my new pics but I can still view all my old stuff.
I don’t upload my photos to the cloud, and don’t use the search function. It’s just a photo library app on the phone. It seems to do a better job of post processing the pics from my Pixel, which is why in use it.
My only issue is with banking apps and our national ID app which is very useful. I know some work, but I haven’t seen all that I have listed, so I would have to be the guinea pig :) I actually have an older Pixel phone with a shattered screen, I was planning to have it repaired, so I guess that’s where I can test GrapheneOS safely.
Pardon me, starts?
Exactly. It’s google. They’re scanning EVERYTHING. Even if you don’t use google, they probably know about you from OTHERS’ devices who are using google.
If you’re able to manage a Docker container, you could consider Immich. It works great, has client apps for iOS and Android. Open Source. I’ve been using it for a few years now.
Not that difficult to setup either. If I can do it anyone with a keyboard can.
It was my first ever Docker app, and it was brain dead easy.
The main reason why I haven’t moved to Immich is backups. Storage is Hella expensive and there’s no way I store photos without a backup.
Backblaze B2 is about $7 a month per TB.
Almost every major backup solution natively supports S3 compatible storage.
$7/month per TB is expensive as a data hoarder…
Best to scope it down to documents, git and photos.
The rest gets an onsite backup to externals.
Obviously cloud storage is convenient, but there’s definitely better value in on-site backups.
That works out to $84/year, which is about what you could get a 1TB HDD for.
2 x 1TB HDDs in RAID will be much cheaper and reasonably safe in the long run.
1TB SSDs will be even better value due to their extended lifespans, and you’d get much better speeds.
I back up to local storage and then replicate offsite to S3 nightly.
On-prem backups are great and cheap and fast and definitely plan A but a robust backup solution is going to require offsite storage of some sort. Object storage is one of the cheapest ways to do that for most situations, particularly for things that can’t be replaced like photos.
I’d do the same if I wasn’t so tight with my money lol. I prefer having multiple on-site backups so I don’t have the subscription fees.
If something bad enough happens to my house that it destroys all my backups then I imagine photos are not going to be very high on my list of priorities.
That’s a terrible article though and seems quite click-baity, it’s hard to say what’s going on just based on that.
It also saysWe’re talking Personal Intelligence, Google’s latest AI upgrade path which lets users opt-in to connecting Google apps to Gemini.
If it’s opt-in, it’s fine, as long as the user knows what exactly they are opting in for.Even when they say it’s optional, it’s never actually optional. They are always enabling it in the background and just preventing you from seeing that.
But even if they actually did use an opt-in system properly, they would still only do that for like 6 months, and then in the next update you’d be forced to use it. And who can stop them? There is no alternative.
No alternative? Immich and Ente are definitely an alternative Google Photos. It ain’t that hard to degoogle these days.
There are services and websites that literally won’t let you change your email, so if you used gmail to sign up, you’re stuck with that email.
Never had a website or service deny an email change in my 25 years of being on the internet. But you can move all the other stuff to a different email and keep the ones you can’t change on your gmail. Still a better choice than giving all your data to google.
Immich definitely lets you change your email, and even if they didn’t, it’s open source and self-hostable, you could just do it yourself and submit a PR.
The way they are doing it is kind of sketchy though. They are replacing the old search functionality with Gemini and now if you click the search icon in Google photos it immediately pops up asking you to pick your own face. There’s no option to skip this step, though you can still revert to the old search for now.
The creepy part is that when they ask you to select your face, it’s pretty clear they’ve already figured it out, because it’s the first face they show you.
Alright, I already transfered the pics to my Immich a month ago anyway, time to delete my shit outright…
If you install immich in your homelab, you can just transfer all the images off your device very easily with the immich app.
Probably the only way to keep them private from big tech. But the long term solution is to not use the official Android or Apple systems and to root your phone and install cyanogenmod or something similar without Google apps.
But that means some apps wont work at all, so thats the price to pay for that freedom.
Or you can just buy a separate camera and stop using your phone for that.
Time to invert the colors of some extra weird porn and stuff my Google drive to the brim.
Pandora’s Tech Box opened long ago. It’s already way too late.
tell me how to opt-out
from what I understood, you have to opt in. so by default, Gemini will not have access to your gallery. It’s just matter of time tho when will Google force this upon it’s users imo
ok thanks
uninstall it or uninstall all app updates and nuke the app data, then switch to local storage and fossify gallery or something
or throw out your phone and buy a fairphone or a phone compatible with grapheneOS
the nuclear option ngl, but my plan: am just gonna wait for my Rooted A55(stuck at one ui 7 cause i dont want to get rid of bootloader unlocking,rooted my phone so am unable to update) until it breaks, i cannot wait for the grapheneOS powered Motorola.(i hope it sells in my country!)
These intrusive app rollouts are why they want to disable open source repositories. I have google photos disabled, and use gallery from fdroid. I have to manually leave the camera to look at photos but at least if I take a pic in private it probably stays private.
It’s also opt in. Although I’d be surprised if anyone commenting here is actually using google photos in the first place.
Do we really trust Google’s word though? They already use machine learning on your photos to support the search feature
Thanks, I hate it!
