Valve’s Steam Machine finally has a price: a whopping $1,049 for the 512GB configuration or $1,349 for the 2TB version. And those are without bundled controllers, which drive up the cost more.
The prices are so high in part because Valve isn’t subsidizing the hardware, and the company has already indicated that the component crisis forced it to reconsider its initial pricing plans. In an interview with the YouTube channel Gamers Nexus, Valve engineers discussed the reality of sourcing RAM in 2026, with take-it-or-leave-it prices as memory and other components remain in short supply, from only a few vendors like Samsung, Micron, and SK Hynix.
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Valve, of course, isn’t the only company in a bind over memory shortages, as the crunch is forcing many hardware makers to make significant pricing changes. Even Apple CEO Tim Cook is warning of incoming price hikes for iPhones, Macs, and other devices. And the RAM crunch isn’t projected to get better anytime soon.
I bought a PNY 2tb drive to upgrade my Steam Deck in August of 2025, it was $95 (USD). Today the 1tb version is $165, 2tb is $290.
We buy a decent amount of half TB SSD drives to add to desktop PCs that we sell to customers.
Samsung EVO drives have gone from $47 to $285 in the last year.
While I was looking today I noticed Samsung drives have jumped way more than PNY have.
The PNY 512gb drives were $114, while like you said, Samsung is $285!
Even worse is that I used to be able to get Crucial drives for less than Samsung, and I trust them way more. The Samsung ones are fine, but we’ve never lost a single Crucial SSD in 14 years.
I’ll take a look at the PNY ones. We actually can use 256gb, since these are just backup drives that get a data dump every 5 minutes, so that may save some $.
A year and a half ago, I bought a 4TB Crucial P3 for 251€ ($286 USD), and now it’s currently not even on sale in the same store, but the 2TB version currently costs 407€ ($463 USD). Looking around, I found one that costs 654€ ($745 USD). I wanted to upgrade my RAM, but didn’t have money at the time for it. Then everything happened, and at one point, I saw it go up to 1000€ ($1139 USD). Currently, it’s 560€ ($638 USD).
I do not like the world that we’re living in.
From 12:48 of the video:
Gamers Nexus: “Were you able to lock in contracts for memory with the suppliers directly or did you have to jump through a bunch of hoops or…”
Rep from Valve: “Look there’s no contract, there’s nothing. Those guys…they are…they give us a price every month, and they say ‘you can buy that many’, and it’s yes or no, and if we say no then they never talk to us again”.
Gamers Nexus also links another video they made specifically about the DRAM cartel.
This really bums me out not cuz I was looking to buy one but because I wanted it to shake the market up and make every company do better for the consumer… I feel like this price takes them completely out of the console market and purely into the entry-level PC market where I think it still is a decent specs and price for that market. It’s just not what it was made to be
is it really that more expensive? because unlike a console the steammachine doesnt require a subscription to play online. PS5+ is 150€ yearly just for that. granted, you get a game per month but the games you get are often games you wouldnt buy anyways. so with the current price of 900€ for a 2tb ps pro youll pay 900€. after 3 years the steam machine is cheaper.
Online is free with the caveat that some games might not allow it at all…
you wouldnt play most of these games on a htpc though if you have to compete with keyboard and mouse on a controller. also its still possible to install windows on it, if its such a problem.
that being said the price for the performance is still too high and i wouldnt recommend it to nom tech people. (i commented before comparing the specs to the ps5 pro)
“After 3 years” lol. You’re also not mentioning that even the base ps5, which was released 6 years ago, performs better than a Steam Machine.
You’re also comparing against the most expensive PS+ plan. The base one is about 80 per year so you’d “break even” in what? 6 years? What a joke.
What the fuck do people even play on a PS5… Ubisoft sandboxes? Pass.
This is such a braindead take that I really don’t even know where to start.
I compared it to the yearly plan that showed up first. i was honestly not aware that there are different subscription tiers. when i used ps+ with the ps4 there was only one + as far as i know.
the power of the machine is dissapointing and i commented before comparing the ps5+ specs with the SM.
on the other side could it be a ok device if you want that formfactor, long softwaresupport and still have a pc that can be used for more than just playing games or watching tv. Especially if youre not into AAA-gaming and more into Indie or Emulators. There you‘ll get a bigger Library than from a regular Console.
the price is also arround 7% more if you choose the SM over a comparable DIY according to gamers nexus so it seems fair i guess?
that being said i think the current SM is more a niche product and not for the masses.
The form factor is slightly smaller than itx and you can buy a pre-built itx pc. Software support is ridiculous, that’s already a feature in every pc and OS.
Also, I don’t think the price is ok at all. If you’re going to take away upgradeability, it needs to be a lot cheaper than diy.
I worry that this is going to be so niche that it’ll die a very quick death.
yes. softwaresupport is a feature in every pc but not for consoles. this thing dies once its hardware dies or is so outdated you couldnt run a game anymore.
a ps5 dies once the newer console releases, because there are no games coming anymore.
but yes. i hoped that it would be more than that, but it seems like valve hoped for more too.
Except that the steam machine is not a console? It’s just a linux pc with a UI that can be navigated with a controller. You can just install bazzite and achieve the same result. Software support could actually be worse for the steam deck, considering that it has a semi-custom apu.
Be honest, when was the last time you wanted to use a pc and couldn’t because it didn’t have drivers? Heck, my first server a little over a year ago was using a 15 year-old i5 2400, and it worked just fine for a simple file server + jellyfin with the arr stack and direct playback.
yes. thats why it isnt priced as one, but still gets compared to a console because it wants to compete with thwm in the living room.
soo fun story regarding drivers. my notebook from work doesnt support my docking station at home anymore after a upgrade to win 11 from 10. My linux pc works just fine. its a tablet though and has some unsupported hardware like gyro sensors.
but thats not the point. the point is, that valve still updates its distro for the steamdeck and keeps improving it years after the launch.i expect the same for the SM. compare that to the asus ally: 1 year after release and asus dropped its support if i remember correctly.
I hate micron so much now especially. They basically rug pull all consumers and only sell B2b now. So they can make more money on Ai datacenters.
Problem is there are only a few companies that even sell memory. And micron made it so much worse for the consumer market. I will not forgive, I will not forget.
I really hope China or someone else can step up and just flood the entire market with cheap components eventually.
Yes but giving up profits is not what a company does…
And you say forgive, as if they are your friend or something. Its a corporation. They don’t give a fuck about you as a person.
Almost all corporations doesn’t. There are exceptions. Kagi, the search engine, will give your monthly subscription money back if you didn’t search during the month. How cool is that. That’s someone who actually wants to provide a product users are happy with.
There are exceptions. Kagi, the search engine
They’re giving money to the homophobic brave search engine because it’s “just politics” and also give money to russian yandex despite their invasion into ukraine
https://mastodon.social/@scy@chaos.social/111704636602291316
https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integration-due-to-the-geopolitical-status-quo/19
Alright. Now let’s talk about what Google is doing. :)
Pretty damn evil company if you ask me.
At some point, you realize that companies will always do things you don’t agree with, and you try to pick the lesser evil.
As for homophobic, i dont know if you mean same sex marriage? The bible clearly says:
Leviticus 18:22: You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.
So to Christian people, its not homophobic, it’s about their beliefs. Clearly religions will have things that you must not do, and this is one of those for Christianity.
Abortion is another hot topic. There are many of these that are not based on hate, but on belief systems. I really think it’s getting too much with calling everyone who doesn’t agree homophobic. It’s the new conspiracy theorist. :)
if you’re a bigot because you think sky daddy told you to be, that doesn’t somehow make you not a bigot
Bigot - a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own.
How are you not a bigot with the statement above?
because my pronouns aren’t he/him/his i guess
Because they’re not saying you can’t have that opinion, just that you are bigoted for having that opinion.
Hope that helps you! 😊
Yes. We are both biggots. And I think everyone is, looking at that definition.
Only very mature people are tolerant of opinions they dont agree with. Depends of course on what does tolerant mean? If you argue against it, are you tolerant?
I let a lot of people here have their weird opinions. :)
They still sell consumer memory IIRC, just not their own brand. They’ll make DDR5 for others at inflated prices though.
Its always rough when you are dealing with a cartel…
I love how many people are really trying to suck the cartel’s toes in the comments here.
The “UMM ACTUALLYS” are off the charts and stupid.
They must be Nintendo fans too.
I mean sure, but this is a plain supply and demand issue.
I’m not sure why you are getting down votes.
The reasons fur the demand sick, but you are correct, demand is fast outstripping supply… Price rises are inevitable.
Not my downvote, but I get it. The AI cartel bought out the RAM manufacturers. The “AI circle” of companies is definately fucking over the market and not just in ways that lead to them getting their job done. They didn’t just stop making ram. They slowed it wayyy down, causing prices to skyrocket. They will likely make tons of money from the AI memory towers on orders for datacenters that might not even be allowed to exist, but they’re certainly making multiple times more money on their old lines producing the same product they always have.
Yeah, the cartel comment implies price fixing or a monopoly or something, which really isn’t the case. This is really clearly a case of demand going through the roof (for entirely stupid and irresponsible reasons) and supply not being able to meet it.
But that’s what I get for using critical thinking amongst a mob, this is on me.
It can be both. The three RAM manufactures (Samsung, Micron, and SK Hynix) have a historical record of price fixing and collusion (I believe Gamers Nexus has some excellent reporting on this). It isn’t just supply and demand, it’s that three sketchy companies have the world over a barrel and may well be using the demand spike to keep prices (artificially) high with the knowledge that nobody else can enter the market and that it takes YEARS and a truly ridiculous amount of money to scale up production to increase supply.
Demand going the roof would be normal.
One company (openAI) to prepurchase all of the next years ram before even produced and you double the prices only from that is a cartel move.
And maybe is the worst to this date, with prices 4x or 5x, but in the past the cartel had other ways to raise prices 2x (2016 was last time for who remember).
Hey, I wouldn’t disagree with that for the most part. But I would still say this is mostly an example of supply and demand.
When supply is so limited that you probably won’t be able to acquire all of a resource that you need, it’s perfectly rational to attempt to secure as much as you can from the next batch, even if that means prepaying to ensure your access.
Now if that buyer is offering higher prices to secure the resource, it’s also perfectly rational for the manufacturer to sell it to them.
We’re going to continue to have this problem as long as that relationship remains the same. No legislation or trade deal or tariff or is going to make a meaningful difference. The only way to solve this situation is to increase supply or decrease demand. Well, I suppose you could outlaw LLM training in every country on earth, but good luck with that.
Saying “supply and demand” as if that settles the issue is reductive. It tells us prices moved, not why the market is structured this way. The real questions are what’s driving demand, who controls supply, and how concentrated power has become. When three suppliers and a handful of effectively unlimited buyers dominate the entire market, with weak or absent regulatory intervention, Econ 101 stops being analysis and starts becoming a thought-terminating cliché.
This all so people can rot their brains out to fruit videos…
And so companies can fire the people who do the work (and hire them back later to fix the damage done by the agentic AI), too. Don’t forget that part.
Hire them back at a lower pay none the less. People will and are desperate for work, so it won’t be difficult.
fruit videos? is there a recent trend I missed?
Godawful AI generated soap opera featuring anthropomorphic fruits.
insert veggie tales meme about the future being AI generated
Damn the verge now just quotes GN? They may as well just link their video without writing anything, lol. They added nothing to this article.
Not that I can read much of it because of the paywall.
paywall
Probably doesn’t help in this case, but check out Bypass Paywalls Clean :)
thanks it’s a bit weird to install but I’ll get it done, I always wanted one that works after 5ftladder stopped working
After reporting how much the Steam Machine costs, I could tell already. RAM manufacturers are in paradise right now!
Have you seen what their stocks are doing?
The all experienced exponential growth somehow.
Samsung went from a stock being 200-300€ per share to 5000€ per share in less than a year.
If RAM prices are so bad, couldn’t Valve give an option to order a Steam Machine with no RAM? So that people could use RAM they already have or buy some locally for a lower price.
The Steam Machine is intended to be plug&play.
I get where you’re coming from. The average person doesn’t know how to build a PC, and this is marketed as a plug and play device. Probably wouldn’t be worth the support calls, returns, compatibility issues etc when people accidentally buy the wrong one.
They give away their OS for free. So add a motherboard, a CPU, a case and a graphics card to it and you can use your own RAM.
The point of shitty old processors was to get them cheap. Now that RAM and storage are the biggest factors, they could have gone with newer processors and not be significantly more expensive but significantly more performant.
I feel sorry for them for the team that designed this. They had all this shit ready to go and then the RAM and SSD prices went through the roof, and tbh if you’re speccing a machine for mass production, those seem like the bits that were always gonna be cheaper by the time it comes to actually building it. Why would they ever go up? They never have before.
It was a nice idea, but the timing had completely fucked it. I don’t think it was ever going to compete with the PS5 on price, but right now it’s barely even competing with PC on price…
Even the Steam Deck isn’t competitive any more.
This is what shows in Steam when you search for it.
This is all you can buy.
Seeing the LTT video where they build their own PC with similar parts (but slightly better) for the same price was really the nail in the coffin for this one. The performance of the SMachine makes the value proposition… lackluster.
The only redeeming quality is the form factor. Would definitely fit very well in a living room. Would it make a good couch party game machine ?
So we thought we’d just kick it to the customers
They don’t realize that they drive away customers to upcoming competitors long-term? Only short-term grift in view?
So like… genuine question: what do you propose they do? Operate at a loss indefinitely? Go into an industry they have zero experience and domain knowledge in and just “build a factory”? And industry, I should add, that is probably the single most complicated and technically - as well as capex - intensive industry that humans have thus far derived? What’s the play here? Drive themselves to bankruptcy out of altruism?
Two realistic options. One, depends if the devices are already manufactured. If yes, you sell them at the prices when you manufactured them. That shows good will for the community, and gets devices out and people wanting to buy in to a niche product.
If they haven’t manufactured the devices, then the answer is easy, you simply won’t be making them because they are too expensive to get a large run in until prices go down.
The bigger problem though is the old off the shelf hardware being used here is going to age out incredibly fast. So a third option would be what many of the minipc companies are doing, and give an option for barebones, and let you bring your own RAM and SSD. No option is perfect, but just raising prices higher than a PS5 Pro with no controller and worse performance, you aren’t winning over new customers, and you are pushing your old customers away.
At the same time, standing still and doing nothing is a recipe for someone else to eat their lunch.
My point is that Valve is fundamentally a for-profit company, not a charitable organization. Expecting them to do nothing in response to the wildest market disruptions that the consumer hardware industry has ever seen is frankly unrealistic.
At the end of the day, Valve has been successful because they have been able to balance strategic, long term profitability with providing a genuinely good service at a reasonable market price to the vast majority of their customers. Note that that is specifically not giving things away at cost (as nice as that might be in the short term for customers. In the long run, zero (or negative) profitability would mean Valve ceases to exist.
I’m not trying to suckle at the corporate teat here - I’m simply pointing out that pretending Valve isn’t a corporation is flat out delusional. Not to mention, everyone else’s prices are going to be spiking too. They’re not “the bad guys”, and they will absolutely not be the only ones doing it.
I mean, Valve has been successful solely because they have cornered the game distribution market. Their hardware has done essentially zero for their bottom line. They could have simply never release this product (as they didn’t for the original Steam Machine) in a realistic sense, and been done with it.
Their hardware (pointedly, the steam deck) has begun a diametric shift towards Linux gaming. The fact that our fuckwit Captains of Industry are pinning the throttle and driving at a wall, and in the process gutting the consumer electronics market is, ultimately, just really awful luck and timing. If it weren’t for that, I dare say Valve would be looking at becoming a Serious Player in the hardware market. As it stands, this will certainly significantly stymie the adoption of the GabeCube… but I hope that ultimately, when the market stabilized (or corrects) in time, they’ll still be on track to do that.
This way they can rent put computer instead of you owning the means to do so yourself. This is what happens when you price out consumers. You bind them to your terms with leverage to pay for your past Investments payed by future earnings.
I mean, how long does a consumer CPU last? 10 years? 15? Datacenter measures don’t count, since they always push 100% load at max feasible temperature. And RAM holds even longer. And DDR3 is good enough for general computing, even with all the bloat.
Yeah, the weakness of the “this is all a massive conspiracy to force consumers to rent all their computing power” theory is that old computers work just fine as long as you don’t try and install a newer Windows.
We’re maybe 2 decades past the point were you had to upgrade your PC every 5 years for it to be suitable for everyday computing usage. There are only two things pushing PC hardware upgrades nowadays:
- OS support time limits and the ever expanding bloat of newer OS versions (which is nowhere as much a problem if your OS is Linux)
- Games
Now, for Games, all attempts at getting gamers to have their games hosted in servers and playing on light PCs - most notably Stadia - failed miserably.
As for OS, how successful has Microsoft been at getting people to actually upgrade to Windows 11, especially since hardware prices shot up?
I think it’s far more likely that people just keep on using their aged hardware more often than not with no longer updated OS versions, than it is for them to actually start paying subscriptions to use remote computing power to browse the web and read their e-mails, especially since that still needs some form of local hardware so doesn’t totally solve their problem with expensive hardware.
I am gaming on ddr4 RAM and an rtx2070 from 2015. However CPU loads are high running a lot of games. I got a few friends who want to upgrade their motherboard but can not reasonably afford ddr5. Most of my non-gaming acquaintances do not own anything more than a phone or tablet anymore.
The RTX 2070 came out in late 2018 though
The cpu was older. Mixed that up sorry.
The prices are also so high because Valve is a for profit company and the ceo owns an entire fleet of mega yachts
With the current hardware prices there isn’t much profit to gain here.
The main difference to other consoles is that they don’t sell at a loss to keep you in their ecosystem like PlayStation and Nintendo do. Valve could afford the cheap prices of the steam deck since its a bit tricky to use as a normal PC, but the steam machine is literally just a PC, selling it at a loss would be stupid for them.
With the current hardware prices there isn’t much profit to gain here.
Valve is a for profit company, they sell their products at the highest price the can get away with.
