Are you prepared for the day the #internet splits?
On the clearnet you will be
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Unable to watch porn.
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Required to give your real name and ID in order to use social media.
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Arrested for “mean tweets”, “anti-government views”, “liking subversive memes”, etc
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Only be allowed to use approved applications from Apple, Google, Microsoft, etc
On #Tor and #I2P you can still be free.
What you can do to prepare
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Set your downlink speed to 10-15mbps to acclimatize yourself
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Encourage app developers to host their applications on Onion and Eepsite domains. (Git repos, fdroid repos, linux distro repos, etc)
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Run all applications that support SOCKS5 over the Tor SOCKS port (9050) (#Fdroid, #Signal, #SimpleX, #AntennaPod, etc)
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Use bookmarks or password manager notes to have the URLs of your commonly used programs, services, and repos (#Monero, #XMRBazaar, #Pitch, #Dread, etc.)
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Get used to text messages instead of audio or video calls. (Audio and video use UDP and generally give your real IP to either a central STUN server or the other peer. (it may be possible to force audio and video calls over TCP exclusively, but the latency would be high and therefore make the call unenjoyable.)
Wut. My home network requires all traffic to go out through a VPN, and I run Tor ontop of that for most everything else.
Who raw dogs on the internet??
Reticulum
Absolutely essential going forward. People need to learn their way around it - and around LoRa devices, too. Reticulum can operate on all sorts of channels, but LoRa is what keeps you connected to your city/neighborhood no matter what.
I’d even say try Meshtastic/Meshcore first, depending on what’s more developed in your area, and then get to learn Reticulum.
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It would be very private. I’d be the sole participant.
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It’s my understanding that Tor is primarily a way to access the clearnet while darkweb access was added as an afterthought. I don’t see Tor solving the problem of I.D. verification on social media, for example.
I2p was designed as a completely separate network. Haven’t used it myself but this seems the way to go for most day to day activity.
Unable to watch porn.
Torrent the porn. I’ve seen plenty on offer at TPB.
Required to give your real name and ID in order to use social media.
Arrested for “mean tweets”, “anti-government views”, “liking subversive memes”, etc
Have your own domain from https://njal.la/ bought with Monero and create a single user instance for Lemmy or Mastodon should allow you to remain anonymous and avoid being arrested.
Only be allowed to use approved applications from Apple, Google, Microsoft, etc
Will Tor and I2P be approved by Apple, Google, Microsoft, etc? There will always be FOSS and there will always be a way to install alternative OSs on computers.
Set your downlink speed to 10-15mbps to acclimatize yourself
I’ve heard I2P is fairly quick, torrenting is encouraged.
Use bookmarks or password manager notes to have the URLs of your commonly used programs, services, and repos (#Monero, #XMRBazaar, #Pitch, #Dread, etc.)
Been doing so for years. You might have a hard time finding someone in the privacy community that doesn’t do this.
Get used to text messages instead of audio or video calls. (Audio and video use UDP and generally give your real IP to either a central STUN server or the other peer. (it may be possible to force audio and video calls over TCP exclusively, but the latency would be high and therefore make the call unenjoyable.)
Messaging via Signal is my go to. Rarely do I even have my voip app active.
With all of this prepared, still, IT IS NOT A REPLACEMENT FOR POLITICAL ACTION
It will get worse. Harder. More inaccessible. More and more people won’t be able to live in a free net, and with that, the prospects of fruitful coordination will wane as well.
And this is by design. If they make it inescapable, people rise up. If they slowly make it less and less accessible, people end up in disarray.
Going the Tor way is not a saving grace. It’s a band aid.
Sincerely,
A person living in Russia, one who has already witnessed it unfold.
Hate to be that guy, but there won’t be an internet split because you won’t be able to use the darknet anymore. Number 4 would also mean using only official OSes, no Linux allowed. This can be forced by only allowing the trade of PCs and mainboards with secure boot enabled and without a way to disable it or getting into user mode.
On any official OS you won’t be able to install anything from unofficial avenues. You won’t be the admin anymore, only a user. The Tor browser won’t be available in any official store. And even if you could get the installer, the OS will forbid you from installing and using unsigned or “unknown” applications.
You probably could use your current PC for a while without these restrictions, but once it breaks or you need to upgrade its over. I hope we won’t get even close to this, but it looks like we are on the way. Both, in the EU and the US. Moved along by both, left and right. The only thing we can do is look and see who positions themselves where and vote accordingly.
The tools are already there, the change is just cost optimization. Your age, post code and your buying and traveling habits identify you anyways. I remember from “Little Brother” how they identified people with the way they were walking. Protagonist was putting some pieces of paper into his shoes.
As far as your buying habits, you can help to obscure this by using Monero.
Pretty sure it was always pebbles, I’m not sure paper would have the same effect, broke his ankle that one time too.
I can’t get over how fucking stupid normies are to cause this in their wake everywhere they go. The web was fine when it only had nerds on it
The wage slaves must not know digital freedom, lest they desire something more tangible.
I2P is a fully connected network where everyone is a relay, a UDP transport exists iirc, and there are many other significant technical differences.
And if you’re dreaming of significant masses moving to the shadows, you might as well dream of them using distributed solutions. Otherwise, the monsters will simply find and shutdown the hosts/servers of whatever the good kids are consuming.
There is a connection between August and freedom. Do you know what is it?
I mean, it’s always been this way on the internet. Somewhere in the mid to late 90’s, a language and communication program (http and web browsers) became very popular and synonymous with “the internet.” But us old farts remember when Usenet, gopher, ftp, fsp, irc, etc. were all used daily. As the World Wide Web enshittifies, people will either stay or move elsewhere, just like they always did.
The real question in my mind is more akin to the movement between physical networks - such as when we moved away from bbs, to college proprietary connections, and ultimately to the internet. I often wonder why - with all of the portable WiFi radios we all own - why hasn’t anyone created an encrypted protocol and software where we all join our personal hardware into one big giant mesh network? I don’t even live in a city in an apartment and I can pick up 4 neighbor’s WiFi signals, never mind all the cell phones and whatnot passing by my house. You’d think we could have an encrypted and robust way of sending packets to each other by now over our personal private hardware (albeit slow and probably prone to buffering as nodes move in and out of connection range).
Oftentimes I think that’s the next frontier.
Take a look at MeshCore and LoRa. Also Reticulum
Reticulum is awesome, I just wish it was more widely available. The way it can use any configured transport medium to do directed mesh network is really good. My only complaint is that anything involving group messages just kinda sucks and I haven’t figured out how to do it better.
I’m working on several RNS projects currently, one of which will hopefully be a fault tolerant emergency dispatch system (think GoodSam cross ATAK) with panic alarms. If that comes to fruition, it’ll automatically give a familiar usual experience with totally off grid fallback.
What’s wrong with me if all I read was “rectum”.
it means that we think alike and should be friends. lol
Rectum? I hardly knew ‘um.
Meshtastic instead meshcore. The former is pure mesh the latter needs repeaters.
It doesn’t absolutely require repeaters. There is an off-grid mode.
Plus, repeaters in meshcore are more like client base in meshtastic. You’re meant to put them up at your house. Is it good to put them on tall towers and mountains? Absolutely. But if you can’t do that, then you can put it at your house at, say, 30 feet, and it’s just fine. Because even with the 3-byte IDs, you still get 16 hops.
Which prebuilt Meshtastic hardware gives most bang for the buck?
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I would say that isn’t going to happen, if we don’t stop fighting.
I live in the European Union.
They’ll require isps to block anything they can’t decode and force MITM SSL keys
Umm… apart from my ARR setup and few specific apps and websites. I use Tor and I2P for almost everything.
And for doomsday scenario I’ve several physical books I love and won’t mind re-reading until the heat death. Also I’ve downloaded several GBs of EPUBs I still have to get to… I think I’ll be alright.
If you think you will get away with using either of those things on the internet once all that other shit happens, I’ve got a paramilitary police squad to sell you
Yeah if porn is at the top of the list, you have a problem.
There is a song from a musical called Avenue Q and the line goes, “the internet is really really great, for porn. I’ve got a fast connection so I don’t have to wait, for porn. There’s always some new site, I browse all day and night, It’s like I’m surfing at the speed of light, for porn.”











