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    Remember, when people made content just for the fun of it

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      I do, and I miss it. What’s more I’ve never once seen a Mr beast video.

      Avoid the cruft, roll your own content and find smaller, individual communities like these tubes used to be a decade (or more) ago.

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        What’s more I’ve never once seen a Mr beast video.

        And nothing of value was lost.

        Mr. Beast only offers “charity porn” that makes him richer. He’s not doing anything to change the systems in place that make the problems he “solves” any better. He’s just putting band-aids on small groups of people while doing nothing to address larger issues. Hell, he himself is an example of a larger issue. We should not have to rely on the rich to fix societies problems, that’s what fucking taxes are for, and Mr. Beast needs to be taxed until his fucking channel is gone.

        I fully await for him to completely deep throat Elon to make more money. Mr. Beast doesn’t care about pesky things like real morals or values, or he wouldn’t be online friends with the likes of Musk to begin with. All he cares about is the dollar signs.

        EDIT: I’m definitely expecting the day when some journalist does a “big reveal” on all the shady horrible shit that goes on with Mr. Beast and his companies.

        EDIT II: You know Mr. Beast doesn’t give a flying fuck about anything but money because he’s still friends with Musk after the very public reveal of one of his staff being trans. The fact that he can be friends with such a fucking bigot while “supporting” their trans staff member reveals how little he actually gives a fuck about the issue. He’s happy to be friends with people who would deny Kris the life she wishes to lead, so how much does he really care?

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          Yeah “Mr Beast Burger” is a great example of this. He hired a company known for shitty “virtual” restaurants (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Dining_Concepts) to slap his name on a ton of franchises to capitalize on his YouTube popularity and get kids to beg their parents to eat there

          And now they’re both suing each other

          https://variety.com/2023/digital/news/mrbeast-burger-lawsuit-inedible-response-1235685415/

          https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/7/23822859/mrbeast-burger-virtual-dining-concepts-counter-lawsuit-ghost-kitchen

          They both deserve each other

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            I don’t even mind the concept of a ghost kitchen, if you don’t want to manage a front of house, fuck it, do pickup and delivery only like so many pizza places do, or run a delivery only brand on top of your existing brick and mortar to avoid contaminating expectations between the two, that’s fine, but just like everything else it gets labor exploited to benefit the owner class by running a dozen “restaurants” out of the same kitchen

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              There are no “rate limiters” in these kinds of kitchens, either. You can literally have 100 people all order over the internet within 10 seconds of each other, and now all of them expect their orders to be ready in a timely manner. Not fucking happening, you know?

              Internet ordering is fucking ruining restaurants and overworking everyone in them.

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                Online ordering needs a wait time system if the kitchen is too busy, just like waiting for a table. People can order elsewhere if the wait is too long, just like in-person.

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                  It really seems like it wouldnt be too hard to give an option for the restaurant to be able to put in the average prep time for each dish, and start building a queue based on those times. So even if they come within seconds of each other, a computer can catch which one came first, and put them in order, and then add a time-frame that takes previous orders into account before it shows the customer a time before their order is ready.

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              Oh yeah I don’t mind the concept, I mind this company specifically, it’s pretty clear their whole schpiel is to take some celebrity name and slap it on some shitty food to drive up clout based sales

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            People who quickly turn to lawsuits instead of trying to find a solution through respectful communication care about one thing only: money.

            So yeah, they’re perfect for each other.

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          that’s what fucking taxes are for, and Mr. Beast needs to be taxed until his fucking channel is gone.

          Why until his channel is gone? If he’s a business, we need to tax him and his business appropriately. More, sure. But taxing a business until it’s gone is counterproductive, even if you don’t like what the business stands for…

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            His “business” is a charity. Charity shouldn’t have to exist in a world with enough wealth to support everyone.

            If his channel became something else, sure. But the point is he would be taxed until all those problems he “fixes” are solved, and then he wouldn’t have much to put on his channel, would he?

            If you take away the “charity” what the fuck does Mr. Beast even bring to the table?

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        I’ve had a much more enjoyable time on freetube because of this, actually. unlike youtube who feeds you content based on what makes them the most money, it tends to actually show you videos that are relevant to what you’re watching. whether it has millions of views or 100.

        it feels like the smaller communities are a little more warm and fun.

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          Check out Brahkie on YouTube if you haven’t already

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      Fuck, remember webcomics?

      Achewood, Diesel Sweeties, Cat and Girl, Penny Arcade, Cyanide & Happiness, Joe and Monkey, Questionable Content, Dresden Codak (always updated way too infrequently), Dinosaur Comics, Gone With the Blastwave, Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal, The Perry Bible Fellowship, When I Grow Up/WIGU/Overcompensating, Married to the Sea, hell, even CTRL+ALT+DEL left us with Loss. I could go on, there’s definitely more.

      …but I don’t like to talk about what happened with SinFest.

      A lot of these sites had advertising, but I don’t remember any of it being so off-putting that I felt the need for an adblocker. Honestly, at this point, I don’t even recall if adblockers were a thing yet in 2000-2005.

      So much content in those early aughts. I’m still waiting on a Complete Achewood. Damn you, Chris Onstad!

      I was always a little disappointed I never was able to get a “I’m the guy who sucks/plus I got depres-sion” shirts.

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          They mostly advertised other comics and merchandise from other comics, if I recall correctly.

          Also, Adblock originally released in 2002, and Adblock Plus came out in 2006.

          I do recall one of the reasons I respected webcomics ads was they weren’t ones that were animated, blaring music, or asking me to try to play a mini-game by clicking on something that specifically can’t be caught by your mouse.

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          What early 2000’s webcomics taught me is there were a lot of really great writers out there with some subpar art skills.

          When the writing is so good, you don’t give a shit that it’s all stick figures.

          EDIT: I almost forgot. With some of them, the best part was watching them go from stick figures to genuinely great art. Penny Arcade is a great example. The originals were so badly drawn, and it went from bad art to an artist literally having a style all their own.

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            Some of them were actually pretty good artists; occasionally you’d see them do other stuff and it’d be genuinely good on an artistic level.

            The whole stick man, lumpy face, primitivist thing was just an “in” aesthetic (while also being conveniently really quick to produce).

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              There are a few webcomics out there that have some excellent artwork. Lackadaisy is the first to come to mind, though updates have always been verrrry sporadic—especially now that she’s working on an animated version—and there was one called The Abominable Charles Christopher that was fucking phenomenal, but it just sorta… stopped. I’m still subscribed to the RSS because I’m holding out hope, but I know it’s over.

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              Some of them were actually pretty good artists; occasionally you’d see them do other stuff and it’d be genuinely good on an artistic level.

              Right, but some of them also blossomed beautifully!

              I remember Dresden Codak being good art from the get-go, and it only got better over the years. Same with Perry Bible Fellowship, that guys got some fucking artistic chops.

              The whole stick man, lumpy face, primitivist thing was just an “in” aesthetic (while also being conveniently really quick to produce).

              I’d say this went for things like Cyanide and Happiness, which if I recall correctly, had a series of artists, it wasn’t all just one person.

              Stuff like Sluggy Freelance? Yeah, the art and writing really never got that much better.

              Then you have Dinosaur Comics, whose entire shtick was (and is) just re-using the exact same panels for every comic.

              Once again… We don’t talk about SinFest.

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      Yes. In fact, it got me a lot of attention. I got into a bunch of newspapers, interviewed on NPR, etc. Then my audience started drifting away and on to the next thing… and then YouTube decided to monetize. My account was monetized for a while. I made a grand total of $100 before it was demonetized again.

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          My big hit was “The Skeletor Show.” It’s still on YouTube. But I did many other things on the account before deciding I didn’t feel like making comedy videos anymore a few years ago. Occasionally people post asking me to please come back, but I don’t know that I ever will.

          I will say that it did get me some jobs when I needed work, which was the original goal of the show anyway.

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      Feels like I’m probably gonna get dogged on for this as some will just call it self-promotion, but I’ve been making “content” for a long long long time - I think my oldest personal completely original YouTube video is like 14 yrs old… and I used to just make it for the fun of it.

      The problem came when my own stuff started getting bogus takedowns and copyright claims and other people sticking ads into my work or claiming that because 2 seconds of my 20-minute long video essay has a clip from a popular movie, I should get no revenue for the other 19 minutes and 58 seconds of detailed analysis… or that - because I chose to use the cartoon theme music from the 1980s animated show for the background music for a 2+ week project on a highly detailed transforming 3D model animation, I should get zero credit or possible revenue from it…

      My choice was either to delete my shit to spite them and move it somewhere else or just give up…

      Sometimes I said fuck them and deleted it. Other times I moved it somewhere else. Other times I shifted what I spent time on.

      Now though, I honestly try to put stuff up not ONLY for the fun of it, but to try and make some sort of tiny bit of money.

      My job contract with a company I had been with for 10+ years ended at the end of last year… and I got a new 6-month contract position at a different company… but it pays way less.

      Being able to make content “just for the fun of it” is nice and easier when you’re young and still on your parents’ dime, but that’s kind of a luxury to some of us older folks who are now just also looking to secure some sort of income in an increasingly shitty world where there are no safety nets, and no job seems safe from elimination.

      The worst part is that - over the years as Google and other companies have increased the requirements for being able to have any sort of monetization whatsoever, I went from making a couple hundred bucks a year to not even qualifying anymore to be a YouTube partner.

      Now with 1,100+ subscribers and over 1.1 million views on all the stuff on my channel (some of which is honestly garbage or just the best versions of otherwise maybe lost media I do NOT own and so am NOT complaining about a lack of making revenue on), I still have yet to make enough from any of the stuff that IS my original work over that 14+ years to even have it be significant to show up as required on my taxes.

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      There’s still plenty of people doing that. But their uploads will be inconsistent when they upload and quality. The views will also be low so YouTube’s algorithm won’t recommend it unless they pay to advertise.

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        My YouTube recommendation page is full of channels with sub 100 subscribers. Because I actually watch them since I find those videos engaging for different reasons. If you actually watch small YouTube channels YouTube is more than happy to serve those channels to you.

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          I do get sub 1000 view recommendations from YouTube but I don’t know if I would assume those creators haven’t paid any money. You can pay to push your videos to a small, very targeted, audience for fairly cheap.

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            That’s a fair point, however with a good bit if the videos recommend to me I highly doubt they are paying for exposure. Many don’t have the absolute basic skills when it comes to cinematography. Personally I enjoy watching random non professionals show their interests. But I don’t think they are paying to show their videos to people like me.

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            I’m definitely not okay with plenty of things I have no choices in the matters thereof.

            It’s a bit like telling slaves who don’t like being enslaved “well, you don’t have a choice in the matter” like that somehow impacts how they feel about it?

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    They can have him, I’m sick of seeing him show up in thumbnails on youtube.

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    No matter what, the amount of money, contests, and just absolute overindulgence capable by Mr Beast is insane in any functioning society. The disparity is so bad these influencers and people with money swoop in, gift people egregious and lavish gifts are rewards for contests, and use that to further enrich themselves through monetized channels. Its sickening to watch. This shouldn’t be reality.

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        Suddenly it’s 1960.

        Microsoft, Apple, Amazon and Google have replaced ABC, NBC, PBS and CBS.

        Your “personal computer internet appliance” is a black-box running rented software, just like in the ‘dumb-terminal time-sharing’ era.

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      For sure but Mr. Beast doesn’t actually keep any of the money for himself.

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        He does though. You can’t build fancy sets and put on huge productions without having money. Like yeah, Jimmy might not have millions of dollars in his personal bank account, but his business sure does.

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      You’ve never heard a positive word about Mr. Beast / Jimmy? I have, quite a lot actually. Maybe you don’t watch the people who interact with him more, idk. He seems like a nice guy who uses his videos to generate revenue that he immediately puts back into making more videos. Like, almost all of it if I understand correctly. All while helping tons of people in the process.

      Also, Musk is desperate for Jimmy’s attention lol. He asked Mr. Beast in a tweet recently why he doesn’t upload his videos on X and basically got the answer “It’s not worth it” lol

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      Meh, I’ve never watched a video of his, but seems like it’s just a modern day game show/home makeover/dystopian feel-good story sort of thing. Neither good or bad. It’s good that he helps some people, bad that the people and many, many more need help.

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        I agree that it sucks that we need people to help pick up the slack in our social nets and whatnot, but I think it’s unfair that people attack Mr beast for using that YouTube money to help people to make more YouTube money to help more people. Loads of these youtubers rake in more and do jack with it but never face any individual flak, but he does something different and he becomes the poster boy of evil youtuber to people.

        FWIW Beast Philanthropy is a registered 501c3, feeds like over half of NC, and has done alot of disaster relief work in a bunch of states and a handful of countries. I don’t think it’s evil that they shoot some footage in the process and a quick ad read to feed 100% of the revenue from the philanthropy channel back into the 501c3.

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      And now Elon Musk wants him on X. Keep in mind that Elon Musk is openly repelled by those he cannot manipulate, including anyone with working conscience who is disgusted by the kind of propagandistic hatred X serves up on the regular, and Musk tirades against that kind of ethical “wokeness” regularly. Yet he loves Mr. Beast enough to run Beast content (for free? as an ad?) to get Mr. Beast onto his platform. That’s not the kind of recommendation decent people get from Musk.

      Excellent write-up. This paragraph especially speaks volumes. Honestly, it’s an angle I hadn’t even considered, but when faced with it, yeah, exactly! How the hell does Mr. Beast not get the same “wokeness” critique as other people when it comes to Musk??

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        Musk is just a suck-up. Also, Mr. Beast doesn’t really do anything he could clown on, and he’s well connected. It would make Musk’s reputation worse than it already is.

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      OMG, thank you! I’ve been saying for years that something is not right about him but I can’t pinpoint why. We will see with time, I guess!

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        Mr. Beast is never off. I’ve never seen a candid picture of him. He’s probably clean, but something’s very fake about him.

        The first project I heard of his was “#TeamSeas”. Which collects donations to dredge trash out of the ocean. Except realistically, that trash is constantly getting replenished. The efforts should have been to reduce plastic waste, either by promoting less consumption or switching all drink bottles to recyclable aluminum. Neither of those look as good on camera as a specialized ship pulling trash out of the ocean and promoting anti consumption probably wouldn’t sit well either his audience or sponsors.

        His viewers mainly consist of people who want to feel charitable vicariously or people fantasizing about about being on the reviving end of his charity. It’s not much different from the people who watch Life Styles of the Rich and Famous.

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          I don’t think that’s the right perspective to have on this, a good action isn’t bad just because It wasn’t the best action possible.

          And the solution you brought upon, would still leave the first problem afloat, “great, we reduced plastic consumption, but who’s going to remove the plastic that is already in there?”, It’s a paradox you see? If he chooses option A, people will burn him at the stake because he didn’t choose option B.

          I was skeptical at first when I first got aware of him, then I did some research and there’s a ton of philanthropy there, lots of people got some help they needed.

          EVEN if it’s done with ulterior motives, the non changing fact is that people indeed were helped.

          Whichever motives he has behind his persona, he has helped more people than most could or would’ve helped in their entire lifetimes.

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            I would follow on from you by saying removing plastic is the better of the options anyway. Good old free will means you can’t force people to choose to use less plastic and alternatives, but you can force yourself to go and do something about it - we can’t even make them use a bloody rubbish bin.

            I mean, how would you even go about it? Lobby governments against organizations with much bigger pockets, advertising campaigns to tell us what we already know, start a political party?? Cleaning beaches already showed what we as people are doing and what we can do.

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            Dredging the ocean can come after we stop putting trash in it. There’s a finite amount of resources for these activities and they should be first directed to the most effective solutions first. He apparently thinks he has enough influence on his audience to direct them to clean up his chocolate bar displays.

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          Except realistically, that trash is constantly getting replenished

          I don’t watch Mr Beast but he’s trying to help unlike everyone else. Yes we should stop dumping plastic in the ocean. But removing what is already there is useful just like cleaning trash on the beach is useful. You don’t walk past litter and say, “No point in picking it up, someone else will just throw more.”

          There are many non profit ocean cleanup organizations.

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            Except, at least where I am, there’s social stigma against littering, so the first problem has been solved. Picking up a bit of litter every now and then is sustainable.

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      But, he’s trying to manipulate him by inflating view counts? Also, pretty sure musk wants him because he’s a huge creator and it would be good for twitter, not because he can sense he’s bad or whatever. I don’t really care about Mr Beast, never watched his videos, but I’ve heard much more good about him than bad.

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      Disclaimer: I don’t really watch Mr. Beast all that much.

      Mr. Beast’s origin story (apparently) is that he went all in on Bitcoin really early, like so early that when it blew up he became a multi-millionaire (we don’t actually know exactly how much money he got, it could be a lot, it seems like a fuck ton).

      By some grace of God he had a really good influence and decided to use that money for charity, creating a YouTube channel to film that charity and make some money back on his endeavors. He talks a lot now about how he makes so much off of YouTube videos that he can often just break even on the crazy prizes he gives out based on the views he gets.

      Now based on this it seems pretty chill. Mr. Beast made a fuckload of money and is working within the system of capitalism to give it back to some of the most needy (I mean he’s done stuff like traveled to Africa to help install water wells in tiny remote villages, say whatever you want but that’s good charity.)

      The problem is, as other people in this thread pointed out Mr. Beast has done a ton of podcasts talking about his work and it’s pretty clear that he actually thinks that this is how the system is supposed to work, that the only issue is that more rich people aren’t giving away their money like he is and if that happened the system would be working perfectly. That’s a stupid take, and as I mentioned before, I think he only became this charitable as a fluke, he’s an exception to the rule.

      Now I’ll defend him: I think that Mr. Beast gets a lot more hate than he deserves. He’s one of the very few rich people who is truly giving away most of his money to other people (sure, lots of his videos are him giving away money to middle-american white people but that doesn’t even matter that much) he gets hate because he places himself in the spotlight the “controversy around every video” that you point to is a product of this. It’s part of the production and only makes him more famous. Mr. Beast is only a symptom of a disease and directing hate towards him is only done because it’s easy.

      Like I said earlier, he’s an exception to the rule, and the rule is that people this rich don’t engage in any charity nearly this much, it’s bizarre that people focus on the one rich person doing that. Oh wait, it’s not, it’s just a bunch of lugheads falling for the American celebrity worship/attention culture but in reverse.

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      Look, I hate youtubers more than anybody I know, but if someone was impersonating this guy to prank some kid he’s never met I don’t see how we can expect him to apologize for something he didn’t know about and wasn’t involved in.

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      To put into perspective just how unimportant Twitter is in the grand scheme of things, Mr Beast’s most popular YouTube video has 40 million more views than Twitter has total monthly active users (500m or so), and 100 million views is frankly a pretty underperforming video for him

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      Smart enough to show support for his trans staff member while also being friends with someone who would deny every trans person their human rights?

      He’s a fucking piece of shit speaking out of both sides of his mouth.

      You can’t support Kris and be friends with the likes of Elon Musk.

      He’s not smarter than this, he’s fucking greedy just like Musk.

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        Where in the article does it say anything about their being friends?

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          It doesn’t say it in the article, but Mr. Beast’s friendship with Musk is well documented.

          https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-and-mrbeasts-complicated-friendship-timeline-2024-1


          Over the following months and years, Donaldson and Musk exchanged messages on X (Twitter back then). Donaldson said several times that he admired Musk.

          In one tweet, he said he had been reading “Elon Musk: Tesla, SpaceX, and the Quest for a Fantastic Future” by Ashlee Vance.

          “I’m about to finish this book and I want you to know that I respect the hell out of you,” he wrote on February 11, 2020. “Ever since I started learning about your work ethic and passion I’ve been more motivated than ever to make a difference. I look up to you.”

          Donaldson also tweeted messages of support about Musk’s developments at Tesla, and said he would be tuning in when Musk hosted “Saturday Night Live” on May 8, 2021.

          On February 27, 2022, Musk tweeted asking why the “traditional” media was “such a relentless hatestream.”

          “Bro I could literally feed a million people and they wouldn’t care in the slightest,” Donaldson replied. “But the second I slip up and do something wrong they’ll pounce all over it lmao.”


          Musk then cryptically tweeted out: “If I die under mysterious circumstances, it’s been nice knowin ya.”

          Donaldson replied: “If that happens can I have Twitter.”

          Musk responded with a simple, “Ok.”

          “Jokes aside, be safe!” Donaldson said. “I wuv u.”


          Yeah Mr. Beast doesn’t actually respect Kris, if this is how he talks to Musk. You don’t call him “bro” and not mean it.

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    Isn’t one of Mr. Beast’s friends or employees trans? He’s shown open support for them too. He has a vested interest in not associating with Elon.

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      He’s got vested interest in gargling Musk’s balls.

      “I’m about to finish this book and I want you to know that I respect the hell out of you,” he wrote on February 11, 2020. “Ever since I started learning about your work ethic and passion I’ve been more motivated than ever to make a difference. I look up to you.”

      To note, 2020 was a couple years after Musk called the cave diver that saved kids a pedo.

      That was the moment that all rational people figured out he was a complete asshat. Mr. Beast didn’t.

      In my view, it means Mr. Beast doesn’t actually respect Kris very much, to keep being this buddy-buddy with Musk.

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        I mean Musk wasn’t as loud about his bigotry at that point, not in the way he is now at least, and Mr Beast has been openly supportive of trans people. Being a bit of an idiot and being a raging bigot aren’t the same thing, and that incident mostly convinced people that Elon was an idiot. It’s entirely possible he’s changed his mind about Musk in 3 years. I’m not a Mr Beast fan by any means, I don’t watch his content or anything and tbh I found his reaction to the Jacksepticeye thing to be annoying which hasn’t endeared him to me, so I don’t have any skin in the game on his end of things, but there were a lot of people who didn’t hate Elon after the cave diving thing who do hate him now so I wouldn’t really treat that post as gospel personally. A lot of people don’t want to admit it but Elon used to have way better PR than he does now, and a lot of people have changed their minds about him over time. So atm I don’t see any reason to believe that Mr. Beast would revoke his support for trans people for Musk. His support of trans people is more recent as well. Maybe I’m wrong but I’d rather be optimistic about it until he gives me reason not to be.

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        He probably just didn’t know about how shit of a person he was. In 2020 everyone loved musk, me included, mostly just because most people didn’t dig deep into what type of person he was. I want to give Mr beast the benefit of the doubt here because I don’t think he’s an innately bad person like Elon is.

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          To note, 2020 was a couple years after Musk called the cave diver that saved kids a pedo.

          That was the moment that all rational people figured out he was a complete asshat. Mr. Beast didn’t.

          Just quoting myself here for good measure. *shrugs

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              Yeah and I’m of the opinion that it was pretty widely covered at the time, and a lot of people figured it out, so I don’t buy that “most” didn’t know it.

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                That was the time he was the most popular. Everyone’s was in love with him and though he was the real life tony stark at that point. I hadn’t even heard of the fact he called the rescuer a pedo until s couple months ago (way after I realised he was a dick). To be fair, this is all anecdotal, but many people didn’t know and I want to give Mr beast the benefit of the doubt. Not to add this was three years ago before all of the other bad stuff he said.

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        I don’t know much about him but from what I know he seems like the kind of guy who would put money above all. I’m guessing as long as he thinks he can benefit from Musk it doesn’t matter if his friend or employee is trans.

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    Why is it people who hoard wealth and use that wealth to hoard more wealth by fucking as many people as possible always get this dismissive “eh of course they do shrug,” - but as soon as somebody finds wealth and is like “how can I do something useful with this” then uses that wealth to start a food bank and fund water/energy projects for needy communities we gotta spend our day breaking down how they’re evil and sus?

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      Because people who get this rich do it by exploiting the poor. They aren’t going to turn around and be nice. People who get this rich start as absolute shit bags. They remain the same after.

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        … that doesn’t answer the question they asked.

        Did you literally not even manage to read a whole one paragraph comment before responding?

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        My brother in Christ he’s a fucking YouTuber. If you don’t want to be in a video, say no. 🤷

        Of course for all this screeching about exploitation I’d happily put down $50 that says you wouldn’t turn down a free car because you “don’t want to be exploited.”

        Go tell the people in the 21 counties of NC his food pantry travels to that they’re being exploited and see what they think of your hot take. Or are you one of those “feeding people robs them of their bootstraps” types?

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    Imagine running scam on video views like, 5 years after Facebook’s infamously bs « pivot to video » bombed. What a visionary man.

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    If MrBeast leaves YouTube I will consider that a win. I am so tired of see his gaping jaw open on my front page for his stupid stunts and his stupid candybars.

    HE’LL BE BACK, THEY ALWAYS COME BACK