It simply saw a superior technology and decided to attack.
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Also, the robotaxi has been live for all of a day and there’s already footage of it driving on the wrong side of the road: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s-h0YXtF0c&t=420s
The thing that strikes me about both this story and the thing you posted is that the people in the Tesla seem to be like “this is fine” as the car does some pretty terrible stuff.
In that one, Tesla failing to honor a forced left turn instead opting to go straight into oncoming lanes and waggle about causing things to honk at them, the human just sits there without trying to intervene. Meanwhile they describe it as “navigation issue/hesitation” which really understates what happened there.
The train one didn’t come with video, but I can’t imagine just letting my car turn itself onto tracks and going 40 feet without thinking.
My Ford even thinks about going too close to another lane and I’m intervening even if it was really going to be no big deal. I can’t imagine this level of “oh well”.
Tesla drivers/riders are really nuts…
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I think that’s called “murder”
Full Self Destruction
Damn. I hope the train is ok
Tesla’s have a problem with the lefts.
Elongated Musketon: UM THAT WAS JUST 1 FAULTY MODEL STOP CHERRY PICKING GUYS JUST BUY IT!!!1
Clearly the train didn’t yield properly, time to ban trains.
I mean, he did specifically come up with his idiotic “Hyperloop” concept to kill California’s high speed rail project
For as much as I’d like to see Tesla stock crash these days, and without judging on the whole autonomous car topic, this IS cherrypicking.
Human drivers aren’t exactly flawless either, but we won’t ban human driven cars because some acts recklessly or other had a seizure while driving.
If statistically self driving cars are safer, I’d rather have them and reduce the risk of coming across another reckless driver.
yes we should be doing more to reduce driving, it’s relatively unsafe and I’m sick of our lived environments being designed for cars and not people.
It’s stupider than I thought reading the headline. That car started driving down the fing tracks
How could the left do this /s
Next up: “Train is a communistic tool to restrict vehicular freedom. Banish trains! More highways!”
Train often frequented by Hamas supporters canceled a Tesla.
This is unironically something I’ve heard people argue about public transport in general, that its a tool to control people’s movement.
Just one more lane, bro!
Meanwhile my sister’s fiancee drank the whole pitcher and is back working there totally believing Elon is some super genius and that the cars are capable of full self-driving. (I really have to bite my tongue when listening to him)
My camry can self-drive too, same outcome. (just off a cliff, rather than in front of a train)
Honey, are those train tracks? … Yes looks like we’ll turn left on to the tracks for 1/2 a mile. Its a detour.
Yeaaaaah, I mean fuck Tesla for a variety of reasons, but right here we’re looking at a car that drove itself onto a set of train tracks, continued down the train tracks, and the people inside did…nothing? Like, they grabbed their shit and got out when it got stuck. The car certainly should not have done this, but this isn’t really a Tesla problem. It’ll definitely be interesting when robotaxis follow suit though.
Where’s the video?
Hope no one was hurt, regardless whether they’re stupid, distracted or whatever! If we can’t build fail-saves into cars, what are our chances for real AI?
Okay I don’t want to directly disagree with you I just want to add a thought experiment:
If it is a fundamental truth of the universe, a human can literally not program a computer to be smarter than a human (because of some Neil deGrasse Tyson-esq interpretation of entropy), then no matter what AI’s will crash cars as often as real people.
And the question of who is responsible for the AI’s actions will always be the person because people can take responsibility and AI’s are just machine-tools. This basically means that there is a ceiling to how autonomous self-driving cars will ever be (because someone will have to sit at the controls and be ready to take over) and I think that is a good thing.
Honestly I’m in this camp that computers can never truly be “smarter” than a person in all respects. Maybe you can max out an ai’s self-driving stats but then you’ll have no points left over for morality, or you can balance the two out and it might just get into less morally challenging accidents more often ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. There are lots of ways to look at this
a human can literally not program a computer to be smarter than a human
I’d add that a computer vision system can’t integrate new information as quickly as a human, especially when limited to vision-only sensing - which Tesla is strangely obsessed with when the cost of these sensors is dropping and their utility has been proven by waymo’s excellent record.
All in all, I see no reason to attempt to replace humans when we have billions. This is doubly so for ‘artistic’ ai purposes - we have billions of people, let artists create the art.
show me an AI driven system that can clean my kitchen, or do my laundry. that’d be WORTH it.
@Davriellelouna I am sure it was all monitored in real time and a revised algorithm will be included in a future update.
And maybe an update to the firmware on those expensive Logitech webcams powering the AI.
Every thing seems to turn to shit
To be fair it is a Tesla. It started out as shit.
Yup, but the control mechanisms are going to shit, because it sounds like they are going to maybe do a half assed rollout :)
It started out promising, then was consigned to be shit when Elon swore off LIDAR. If he kept his shitty little hands away from management and let the engineers do their thing, it could’ve been great.
Driver failed to control their car and avoid a collision.
FTFY.
I’m sure the car did actually take the action. But there are TONS of unavoidable warnings and reminders to the driver to supervise and take control when FSD goes wrong.
Which you can do by such super-technical means as “hitting the brake” or “steering the other way” or “flipping the right stalk up”. Rocket science, I know.
Driver’s fault. Bad technology, yes. Worse driver.
I just don’t know how they’re getting away with calling it ‘full self driving’ if it’s not fully self driving.
I didn’t keep track of how that lawsuit turned out.
That said, it is labeled “Full Self-Driving (Supervised)” on everything in the car.
Supervised as in you have to be ready to stop this kind of thing. That’s what the supervision is.
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I’d have bailed out and waited for the insurance check. Then got a different car.
I wouldn’t have had time between pumping iron and getting head, myself.
