• 𞋴𝛂𝛋𝛆@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Opt out is idiotic. Don’t buy this shit! You to not own it. What fuckwit dumbass rents a fridge someone else controls for $2k. I bet it has a camera inside to sell grocers a list of what to mark up for your custom pricing nonsense because you bought a billboard that screams I’m a gullible moron with more money than sense.

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        2 months ago

        I just wish I could buy a cold box, a hot box, a spinny-arm water box and a spinny-drum water box without computer chips in them at all.

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      2 months ago

      If you eat like shit, that info can be sold to health providers, insurance for that sweet sweet premium increases too.

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    2 months ago

    Here’s what they look like on my fridge:

    I would not buy appliances with ads,
    I would not buy them, Sam-I-Am.

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      2 months ago

      That’s the main issue here. This fridge didn’t show ads when people bought it.
      So buying things that don’t show ads isn’t enough. You need to only buy things that don’t get updates.

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        2 months ago

        Yeah, that just makes this so sinister.

        What I mean is that my fridge doesn’t have a screen. So if Panasonic decided to show me ads on a fridge where the most complicated feature is the ice maker, that would be a neat trick.

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          2 months ago

          Receives a letter at home from Panasonic containing a message, a color printed sheet and a fridge magnet.

          Message reads: “Dear costumer, please use enclosed fridge magnet to hang provided advert sheet on your Panasonic refrigerator”

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            2 months ago

            Funny you say that, in Japan it’s common to get business magnets in your junk mail. Stuff like cleaners, in-home therapy, etc.

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      Nothing needs to be, but I do like to monitor door status and temperature for my fridge and deep freezers with home assistant.

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        Have these functions actually proved useful? I think I’ve had maybe one fridge failure in my entire lifetime that resulted in a complete loss of contents. And many dumb fridges these days have open door alarms.

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          The door monitor mostly helps when a kid walks off leaving it open thinking they closed it.

          The freezer temperature monitoring has saved the contents several times. A breaker had tripped once and I didn’t notice, it let me know that I needed a generator during a power outage, and one of the kids snuck an ice cream and left the lid wide open.

          So yeah, it’s been useful. It’s not needed 99% of the time.

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            An alarm that beeps when the door is left open more than X minutes (say, 5 minutes) only requires a stupidly simple circuit and about $5 in parts.

            No smarts needed (though it’s probably cheaper to make it with a microcontroller than have the timer circuit be done with discrete parts).

          • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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            Hmm, my fridge is in my kitchen, which is in the middle of the house. I’ve never been in a situation where the fridge door has been open more than a couple minutes without me noticing, and I have three kids.

            I’ve had two fridges die (well, the same one twice), and that sucked, but there’s not much I could do about it even if I knew a few hours earlier, and I use the fridge enough I’ll notice within a few hours. Refrigerator deliveries often happen after a few days, and I’m not going to keep stocking ice during that period, I’ll just consume what I can and move the important stuff to the mini fridge or chest freezer.

            It would be cool, sure, but it’s not worth having it connected to the internet.

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        2 months ago

        To Home Assistant! The cause of, and solution to, all of life’s problems. 🍻

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    2 months ago

    I was ready gawk at what ads on my fridge would look like, and then this. I don’t know what I expected.

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    2 months ago

    Guess what they look like on my 250 Dollar dumb fridge.

    I can even keep my food chilled with it. Plus I can freeze stuff. Even has a light when I open the door. Super practical. You guys should come see it!

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    This is an amazing article. I’m serious. Very well written. This is my favorite part:

    I asked Higby why they were bringing ads to the fridges. He said via email, “This pilot further explores how a connected appliance can deliver genuinely useful, contextual information. The refrigerator is already a daily hub, and we’re testing a responsible, user-controlled way to make that space more helpful.”

    This is similar to the justification Panos Panay, Amazon’s head of Devices & Services, made to me last month when I asked him about advertising on its Echo devices. He said it was looking to be “elegantly elevating the information that a customer needs.”

    Do these people actually believe this? Do they see advertisements in their own lives and think, “ah yes, that was useful and contextual. That was a helpful ad, elegantly elevating my information.” I’ve seen some delusional people in executive-level roles, but that would be a special new class of delusion. Nobody likes ads. I recognize that some people have higher and lower tolerances for them, but nobody is actually grateful for them. Right?! I need to believe this is true.

    Both companies claim they want to offer “curated,” “relevant” ads that might “enhance the experience.” I can buy that to some extent when it’s ads for features that your smart fridge or smart display offers. This tech is complicated and capable, and most people only tap into a fraction of what their devices can do.

    That’s generous. But ok, maybe I can grant the premise.

    But there is no future where third-party advertisements will ever be welcome in people’s homes like this — even if they happen to show me a brand of pet food right when my dog is looking at me with hungry eyes.

    Right. Exactly. No matter what, I can think of no situation in which an ad is serving the customer’s interests. Maybe in the case of a coupon? But even then, I think it’s dubious.

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    No they won’t, because I’m not stupid enough to buy a ridiculously overpriced fridge.

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    Unless you build it and code it yourself, do not get a smart device at any cost. Even if they’re on sale for $5. (Unless you’re just planning on reselling them I guess)

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    No that’s what the front of my fridge will never look like, no matter my net worth. I will never buy a smart refrigerator, certainly not this model from Samsung!

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    imagine paying 2k for a fridge just because it has a screen and stupid smart shit. basic fridge please and thank you.

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    “Smart” fridges are the dumbest shit ever; given that, pi hole or some ad blocking DNS? Block access to Samsung servers?

    Don’t understand people who are willing to let all that data pass through 3rd party servers