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So far we are seeing significant price increases/low availability in:
- RAM
- SSDs/hard drives
- some microcontrollers
- phones
- and now GPUs
I think we are nearing a bit of a technological winter for the consumer market.
And all that while we get more and more dependent on technology…
As someone from the third world, I’m really scared
Getting repairable tech will be even more important now than ever. Making your current devices last is important, but even more important in a couple of years (in my opinion).
I just dont see the price going down.
I really want your conclusion to be wrong but all the logic left in me agrees with it.
Honestly, it’s a culture I can get behind. Lower ewaste, reduce the product cycle to something greater than a year, encourage more hobbies and less consumerism, … people will flock toward things that last, which is a market that can use some love.
Even cars
Ford is cancelling their electric pickup because they will convert their ev battery factory in a factory that makes batteries for datacenters
Tbf, GPU were already part of a significant price increase. It just stuck around and got the new normal.
Interesting project
Gamers, I think it is time that we do the unthinkable.
We must actually play our backlog of games.
Been on it since steam deck
Remember ever company that cuts consumer production over private ai production. When the bubble pops stick with the companies that remembered consumers are the longterm profit. For the rest, let their shareholders eat them alive as they sell every share from beneath them.
I think the pop has already begun. Look at the silver and gold prices. 2026 is going to be a stock market massacre.
Please please please… please Nvidia? Can regular people please still have computers?
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Meh, nevermind. AMD and Intel can have your consumer business, I’m fine with that too. Surely this AI trend isn’t a bubble, and there’s absolutely no way you’ll regret this later. Best of luck.
I wouldn’t go intel. That place is a shitshow. Also, I am not so sure the AI bubble will burst. World governments see it as sn arms race. So they will keep that industry propped up.
I’m not sure how it’s an arms race given the fact that it can’t do anything remotely useful.
Well, maybe not useful to you. But to hackers, which at the government level are military, it can be very useful. They can use AI to exploit a publically disclosed exploit faster than people can patch thier systems. That can give one country access to the sensitive data of a different government. And of course, hacking utilities and infrastructure can give one country a lot of power over another. Why do you think a Russia is working to enable itself to isolate it’s internet from the rest of the world. Can’t hack what you can’t connect to. And of course, it doesn’t even have to matter if it is useful, as long as the governments of the world think they can’t let other governments get ahead of them.
yet. it is war capacity through and through. drones aint gonna pilot themselves
Drones don’t pilot themselves humans do it. You’re not going to want to put on board processing on a drone it’s just going to increase the cost to limited tactical benefit. Plus without oversight you couldn’t take the chance it wouldn’t go completely haywire.
For AI, the largest computing expense is usually training. Individual uses are much smaller. And a model that has a narrow scope like flying can have even less demand. Also, they already have autonomous drones. They don’t even need AI. The AI part would probably be like target selection or strategy. And of course, since when did governments care about oversight in a warzone.
I think you are tripping balls, they can be extremely useful.
Yes and the examples you provided are so compelling.
Propped up by what, though? They’ll just continue to dilute the name of AI with underperforming technology and yield more backlash from the public while making an oligarchy out of their richest tech influencers.
The same thing as everything else… money. If the gov dumps money into the bubble it won’t pop. I mean it’s not sustainable, but it can work for a pretty long time.
Yeah, I’m with you there. They sure as shit are going to try, regardless of whatever sustainability point you or I can think up.
People will stop complaining about graphics cards when they and/or their kids are sent to die in a stupid unending war
You can’t sustain it because it’s unsustainable. It’s exponentially inefficient. This isn’t like the US auto industry where labor negotiations blah blah blah. This is a black hole that is disappearing everything it touches. Brand loyalty, human rights, natural resources, political stability.
I don’t see it as exponential. Plenty of up front costs that have a decent appreciation period. I think they can prop it up for 10 to 20 years though. And there is always the chance of some breakthrough to either extend that or pay it off. I expect more of the former though.
Fuck AI
The Bubble hungers…
I need to resurrect my open source GPU architecture plans ASAP. Who wants to help me to plan out the VideoDSP shader cores?
Me!
ChatGPT, I need help whipping up some open source VideoDSP shader cores. Make sure the output includes a definition (and give me professional quality code)
Amazing idea! A great open source GPU needs some well designed shader cores, and I kid you not that name is very punchy and memorable. It’s not only just a silly hobby — it’s also a very important thing in the ever changing landscape of silicon giants like nVidia and Intel.
<poorly recites the leaked documentation of the VideoCore QPU>
Consumer GPU sales are driven by forecasts and orders from channel/OEM partners. If they don’t think consumers will buy a $1000 5070 because RAM prices spiked they sell to the market that will still buy, the 5080/5090.
NVIDIAs direct customers in DC market can handle a $500-1000 bump on a $30-50k card more easily and put orders in before the wafers are bought.
Oh no, not the super expensive green team GPUs with obnoxious linux issues, how will I avoid buying them now? oh wait
