• asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev
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    3 months ago

    I hate GNOME not because it looks bad (though some parts do) but because of their ways of doing stuff. Best example imo is libadwaita and client side decorations.

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      I will never understand why users don’t like client side decorations. I get why developers might dislike it. But the title bar is Gnome is functional.

      I love KDE but every window having a big, windows 95 ass, useless bar doing nothing but wasting screen space feels so old and clunky. No one needs that much handle on a window.

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      I will never understand why users don’t like client side decorations. I get why developers might dislike it. But the title bar is Gnome is functional.

      I love KDE but every window having a big, windows 95 ass, useless bar doing nothing but wasting screen space feels so old and clunky. No one needs that much handle on a window.

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    Both are meh. I wanted to love KDE but it always lets me down. Cinnamon has been great, running a fedora spin with it now. Sway has been calling my name tho.

    Gnome apps are better than KDE apps. GParted vs partition manager, for example. Dolphin sucks eggs next to Nemo too.

    Just my incorrect opinions obviously. Use the stuff ya like.

    EDIT: I’d avoid bazzite in general. They have great marketing and it works. But as an Immutable distro, aka read-only, it can give inexperienced users unique challenges to learning Linux. Caveats apply obviously and if you like it and it’s working for you that’s rad too. I’m a cranky bitch but I’m all about people enjoying their stuff to the max in their own way. And the more nerds using Linux the merrier.

    I stick with X over Wayland but I’m an nvidia loser. I’m on fedora but would not recommend it to someone just starting out. Same with straight up Debian or arch. They’re all great if you know what you’re doing. But distros exist for a reason.

    CachyOS/EndeavorOs. Rock on. I loved these and they’re my fallback if fedora or lmde makes me mad or I want need arch for some homelab thing. I’m weary of the AUR though, making arch kinda pointless for me.

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      3 months ago

      This may have been true at one point but gnome apps started removing basic functionality and hiding what was there in a horrible disorganised burger menu instead of traditional menus.

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        3 months ago

        You’re not wrong. It’s a pick your poison sort of thing. I’m not in love with the burger menus either. KDE apps just feel bloated and fragile to me. (and have forever) I used to like Windows though, in a galaxy far, far away. So my opinion is probably whack.

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      3 months ago

      Happy sway user here!  Not sure I could ever go back to a floating window manager.   I’m too used to tiling now.

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          3 months ago

          Honestly I’d start with the default config file to see if you like the general workflow and then begin modifying as you see fit.  That’s how I started way back when I first learned i3.

          Maybe first replace it’s default swaybar with the more customizable waybar.

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            3 months ago

            I threw the fedora 43 i3 spin on a box. So far so good. I haven’t rage quit back to cinnamon yet. Ended up chickening out and did i3 because I have Wayland nvidia multi monitor trauma. So I’ll ride X out a little longer.

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      3 months ago

      Gparted isn’t a gnome app, it’s a standalone app. Dolphin can do everything that nemo does. 🙃

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          3 months ago

          Poorly how? Really I can’t remeber any time that it failed me in any way.

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      3 months ago

      I started on sway and moved to swayfx, out of curiosity what are some of the things i3 provided that sway lacks?

      • Nothing that it lacks I’ve just never touched Wayland because my hardware hasn’t supported it (I use ewaste machines primarily) and I’m fighting wayland, sway, swaybar and basically the whole thing because I want everything to work the way it did with x11 but it doesn’t and I’m resistant to change.

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    2 months ago

    Gnome is great! My go to… I don’t understand people sayin it uses too much ram. My 2011 macbook (has 4gb ram) running arch with vanilla gnome only uses around 700mb at desktop. Not that bad.

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      Gnome used to much worse when it comes to ram usage, so the inertia of those sentiments still carry.

      Kde used to be much worse, using what gnome uses now, but now kde has similar ram usage to xfce last time I tested. CPU wise it’s still much worse though.

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    2 months ago

    too big but consistent paddings vs. compact but inconsistent paddings

    using sway btw.

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      3 months ago

      Yes, i love it too, but lately i’ve been using my laptop on the go. I did not have time to rice the shit out of it beforehand, so i just threw the kde-meta package on it and it worked more or less out of the box.

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    3 months ago

    I’ve just switched to KDE and it’s great, but it has about the same amount of cons as gnome.

    I gave Cosmic a go recently and it’s great, but not quite ready yet. I think in a few updates time, I’ll be switching. It’s kind of like a cross-over of gnome and KDE and addresses a lot of the long standing pain points of both.

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      3 months ago

      What kind of pain points? Tbh kde is as close to the ideal desktop as it gets in my opinion, it mostly gets out of your way, but when you need something it’s almost always already there just waiting.

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    3 months ago

    Over the past year I’ve gradually switched from Gnome to Plasma but it’s so fucking clunky I do miss Gnome. I feel like it’s in the right place but it just needs rebuilding from the ground up in the modern world.

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      3 months ago

      I much prefer the looks and feel of GTK4 libadwaita apps over Qt6. I switched to KDE Plasma after using GNOME for awhile because I wanted to see if I noticed any improvement in stability, I want to theme my apps, and I prefer to avoid extensions (it is a security risk). I still very much miss GNOME with the 3-4 extensions that I installed, it just felt so much more polished, consistent, and free of bugs and broken features (looking at you theme search and desktop animations installer).

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    2 months ago

    I dunno that I would have made Gnome as it is, and I don’t know that all the advances to Gnome has been better or not, but, kde, really? Maybe you’re just a boring guy