Fortunately, this fucking windows partition I only keep for VR with my shitty Oculus Rift CV1 reminds me how fucked up the alternative is. I can’t fucking wait to get a Steam Frame and ditch it.

  • CatLikeLemming@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    1044·
    6 months ago

    This is basically the reverse of how the regular gaming communities treat Linux. Take a best case for “your team”, a worst case for the other, and then pretend it’s always that way.

    There’s a lot of good ways to explain what makes Windows bad without being disingenuous :3

    • wfh@piefed.zipOPEnglish
      514·
      6 months ago

      I’m not being cheeky. This is my actual experience as of this morning. I’m still fucking angry.

      • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        122·
        6 months ago

        I assume you switched out your GPU for one of the same chip manufacturer? (AMD>AMD or NVIDIA>NVIDIA)
        Then the linux scenario would very realistic, otherwise very much not.

          • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
            9·
            6 months ago

            Finally i can say the same for me too :) I just didnt have a reason to upgrade from my perfectly good 1070 because i wasnt playing any heavy games. Now i have an inherited 6950xt which is a fuckin beast of a gpu :D

        • SilverCode@lemmy.mlEnglish
          6·
          6 months ago

          I switched from Nvidia to AMD with no issue. It probably wouldn’t be as easy the other way around though.

          • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
            3·
            6 months ago

            Yeah it also depends on how you installed the drivers. Some methods are super easy to uninstall but others are catastrophically complicated.

            • SilverCode@lemmy.mlEnglish
              5·
              6 months ago

              I never bothered to remove the Nvidia drivers. The kernel won’t load the kernel module if it doesn’t detect the card, and the gl/vk loaders correctly load the right implementations for the new card, so i never saw a need to remove them other than an extra download and dkms step when I do an update.

      • BremboTheFourth@piefed.caEnglish
        42·
        6 months ago

        Sorry, the installer you used played ads while you waited? Like, with audio? Where the fuck did you find that thing? Scrolling text for AMD’s other products, sure, but I’ve never downloaded anything so egregious from AMD’s website

    • jj4211@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      6 months ago

      I found it relatable because just last night same thing happened in my windows boot, but all of a sudden it decided I had no wifi adapter, even though it worked fine in Linux and hadn’t broken in Windows before. I see it indicating an error in device manager, found a “guide” that specifically called out that device manager error that suggests rebooting the router, because people writing websites troubleshooting guides are morons. The driver model has some weird behaviors that make device behavior more convoluted.

      In Linux, generally it either loads and works or it doesn’t and if it doesn’t, you absolutely need a fixed driver or the hardware has a problem. In Windows it can absolutely not work and you go through some weird things, end up with exact same driver and version as before but suddenly it actually works…

    • verdi@feddit.orgEnglish
      31·
      6 months ago

      Regular gaming on Windows Anno 2024 after a re-install where I spent a sizeable amount of time trying to understand why the fuck it is so hard to just run Windows11 with a local account:

      Game is stuttering, dafuq™!? Check privacy settings, all were reversed in the last update that I DID NOT install myself even though I sprung the wallet open for a pro license and deferred updates a week or so prior. Check netlimiter, telemetry collection time at Microsoft™ WTF!? Double check “local update sharing” is off, it is, it’s likely really telemetry. WTF, Microsoft also enabled copilot by default on my machine?! Uninstall Windows. Spend a year on bazzite on both laptop and desktop. No major issues.

      There’s a remapping bug with the ROG falchion on linux that reauires a trivial txt file creation and copy to stop the keyboard from sending the PC into sleep mode. Otherwise, peachy.

  • Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    751·
    6 months ago

    Upgrading your GPU on Linux

    -realise you can’t afford a GPU and keep your old one

    Upgrading your GPU on Windows

    -realise you can’t afford a GPU and keep your old one

    • BremboTheFourth@piefed.caEnglish
      3·
      6 months ago

      Oh I dunno, it only has to be new to me. I’ve spent the last few days swapping around some GPUs that came out circa 2010, seeing if I can get them working with folding@home. Fun enough as it is, but I’m sure it would have been way more fun with Windows.

      Tap for spoiler

      they didn’t work

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.worldEnglish
    343·
    6 months ago

    The only thing reading something like this does for me is paint the linux community as completely inept and dishonest.

    I swapped GPU in windows by downloading the new driver, shut down the pc, swap cards, boot pc that then loads a default windows driver, install the new driver I downloaded, done. If it asks for a reboot, that takes another 20 seconds.

    Done.

    • ysjet@lemmy.worldEnglish
      112·
      6 months ago

      This is, specifically, the workflow for changing graphics cards manufacturers on windows, e.g. nVidia to AMD. If you’re just going from one AMD card to another, or vice versa, generally you can just toss it in and reboot a few times, yes.

      GPU manufacturers are fucking awful about actually uninstalling their bloatware shit on windows, and it often (potentially intentionally) interferes with other manufacturer’s drivers (and sometimes their own, though that’s less common these days.)

      • Telodzrum@lemmy.worldEnglish
        51·
        6 months ago

        Windows Update installed the bare driver for both Green and Red GPUs directly. There’s no additional software needed for either unless you plan to adjust clock and memory speeds or want something specific from the vendor’s software.

  • trougnouf@lemmy.worldEnglish
    16·
    6 months ago

    There is also the fun part where Windows won’t recognize your PC / accept your license after some upgrades…

  • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.worldEnglish
    15·
    6 months ago

    I switched from Nvidia to AMD back when the 9070XT came out and none of that was necessary with my Windows 11 system. I just swapped the card, uninstalled the Nvidia stuff and installed the AMD drivers. Haven’t had an issue.

    I swear a decent chunk of these issues are “power users” following guides making changes they don’t understand in areas that aren’t meant to be modified directly, then months later having issues when something tries to read or modify those areas again.

  • Crashumbc@lemmy.worldEnglish
    162·
    6 months ago

    I never had a issue on Windows with swapping a GPU since before xp.

    Just installed a 4070… I did go to the website for the latest driver, but Windows supplied driver auto detected resolutions just fine. I was done in fifteen minutes including physically swapping card

    I hate when people write lies like this, it makes Linux look bad.

  • Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.worldEnglish
    9·
    6 months ago

    NVCleanstall helps with the Nvidia telemetry/useless feature bloat on Windows as well as keeping drivers up-to-date. It’s absurd that a third-party program is necessary, but it’s a useful program for anyone still dual-booting Windows.

  • Bluefruit@lemmy.worldEnglish
    91·
    6 months ago

    Every os has issues man. Linux just swaps some issues for others.

    I’d much rather deal with Linux issues than windows, but that’s just me.

    • who@feddit.orgEnglish
      5·
      6 months ago

      I’d much rather deal with Linux issues than windows, but that’s just me.

      It’s not just you. ;)

  • Moonbunny@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    7·
    6 months ago

    I haven’t replaced a GPU on Linux, but my experience on windows has been to always uninstall and remove the graphics driver (forcing the Microsoft generic display driver) before replacing the GPU.

    Then, it was just a matter of getting the drivers installed before I’m good to go. Granted, this was under Windows 10

  • twinnie@feddit.ukEnglish
    61·
    6 months ago

    I just upgraded to an AMD card. My Windows partition required me to download and install the drivers, which gave me some features for controlling how games work. Linux didn’t require me to download anything but I don’t have the tools. Different experiences but neither is particularly better. I didn’t have technical problems with either.

  • subignition@fedia.io
    4·
    6 months ago

    Out of curiosity what were the old and new GPUs?

    That’s a particularly lengthy effort, even for Windows, so I’m wondering if you switched from nvidia to AMD or something major like that. Only thing I would have done differently is uninstall the old graphics driver before switching the hardware - but that is perhaps a very old expectation, so I don’t know that it’d be reasonable in your case

  • nandeEbisu@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    6 months ago

    When stuff goes sideways it’s annoying regardless. In Linux it feels easier to really get in deep and fix what needs fixing, but windows has its registry and you often end up using some random utilities that may or may not work correctly to get what you need installed.

  • foodvacuum@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    6 months ago

    That is one of the first things I noticed when I’ve switched between ATI/AMD and Nvidia early in my Linux usage time. Now I’ve swapped between Nvidia, AMD, and Intel with problems in the past few years

  • iegod@lemmy.zipEnglish
    31·
    6 months ago

    This seems a far cry from reality, unless you’re using some magically niche card.