His ‘fainting’ was likely cardiac arrest. It sounds a lot like heart attack symptoms.
I have heard of this happening to people in the US who work in finance. It’s never ‘overwork’ here. It’s just a heart attack from poor life style choices.
On occasions I have done overtime or feel under pressure due to work, I do feel my heart palpitating. But I am lucky I immigrated to a country where the work culture is more relaxed compared to others. Had I gone to another country, I might have ended up the same as the guy in the article.
Known as 過労死 (karoshi) in Japan, sadly not a new concept. This is the result of the misconception that working harder will yield better results - it only leads to stagnation and ruin. Hoping that more people will realise this and initiate some change in the work culture; not only in Asia, but in the West too… The work culture in both the US, UK and many parts of the EU needs some serious overhaul.
Currently playing Cyberpunk2077.
Kind of fascinating how this word sounds very similar to ‘Kiroshi’ which is a fictious corporate providing optical eye implants.
It could be a play on words based on the root verb 切る (cut). 切ろ死 (kiroshi) could then mean something like “cut to death”, a very reassuring name for a surgical implant corporation.
Great. A double meaning :D
It’s not really “know as 過労死” in Japanese. That’s just the words for “excess”, “work”, and “death”. That’s kinda like saying “it’s known as ‘overworking to death’ in Britain”.
Typical day in America…except we can’t afford the actual hospital and die working from home
There are many that are not on the news
chinas a communist country and authoritarian
china is a late stage capitalist techno feudalism state
Pick a comment and it probably is one of these two
China is actually a socialist democratic state, that is the political doctrine, their party was formed by marxists and communists but this applies to all current socialist states when looking at the origins of their governing bodies and the creation of those states. For the economic doctrine, they just really used their head and created a very well executed model that is relatively new in economy.
It’s usually called a social market economy and it uses the best traits capitalism can offer for growth and scale whilst containing it so it remains innovative and improves the economic situation of it’s citizens. It’s well secured to not allow internal corruption (see what happened when Jack Ma thought he was as polically powerful as US billionaires) and structures like state councils to approve or refuse mergers if they deem it attempts at building monopolies. Wether it will fail or not, all economic models have always had one thing in common; they are born, change through time, evolve and die eventually. That is their only common trait aside from their fundamental nature in being ideological systems to manage ressources. Capitalism may die within the next 100 years if the trends of what has happened in the last 20 years keep themselves up but yeah, it should not be dismissed because of the historical chinese/western frictions.
China produced more billionaires than the US this year. The only way they accomplished this is to allow unfettered capitalism which is very evident. There is no going back and the billionaires will be calling the shots before to long. They are just another fascist nation at this point and the fourth/fifth largest producer of weapons to boot.
First, we do not know this, even the weather channel provides the odds of something happening alongside a reminder that future outcomes cannot be predicted with certainty. Second, they are fundamentally different:
American capitalism: Maximization of individual economic freedom and utility. The system is designed to facilitate capital accumulation, innovation, and consumer choice through decentralized decision-making. The individual (consumer, investor, entrepreneur) is the primary unit of analysis which in turn is often a source of criticism due to the individualist nature of the social doctrine. The “invisible arbitrator (state)” of the market is trusted to aggregate individual choices into the best possible social outcomes but as seen recently, this trust has no incentive and can be taken advantage of leading to internal corruption and instance of accumulation of powers. Process is paramount: free choice, free competition, and profit motive are both the means and the implicit ends. It was also a direct response by John Locke to the issues caused by mercantilism and was created in the 1689 if I remember correctly.
Chinese socialism: National rejuvenation and the perpetuation of the ruling party’s governance (let us remember that this is a country that is still less than 100 years old). Economic development is a critical tool for ensuring state sovereignty, social stability, and the legitimacy of the Peoples republic of China, which in turn is governed by a marxist-leninist influenced communist party. The economy is a subsystem of the state, not a separate sphere. It draws from Confucian traditions of a meritocratic, guiding state (similar to marx’s conclusion “From each according to his ability to each according to his needs” on the flaws of the 19th century german socialist democracy present in his last volume, Kritik Des Gothaer Programs). The collective (nation, party, society) is the primary unit of analysis. Economic growth is a means to power, stability, and civilizational restoration. The system is teleological oriented toward a specific end-state (a “modern socialist,” strong nation, correcting the post-modern false narrative that communism does not work which is a complete generalization and misdirected association on why certain states failed, yet cuba remains and has been for over a century even with the american embargo still being present). Efficiency matters, but only insofar as it serves the ultimate political goals.
The competition between them is not just economic so we can be clear; it is a competition between two fundamentally different logics of social organization: one rooted in individual autonomy and decentralized choice, the other in collective goals and centralized coordination. The 21st century will be a live test of their relative performance and resilience and I think of it as amazing that we get front row seats to see this.
So uh, did this guy who died get what he needed while he literally worked himself to death?
No? Oh. To each according to their needs huh?
I don’t really mind much of what Marx wrote in theory, but it actually has to work in practice first.
I am sorry, but I don’t buy into any of this competition nonsense. The simple fact is China is great because of the US not despite it. They are number one trading partners and along with Russia make up the new “petro alliance”. It is pretty obvious what has happened really.
Nations are no longer in control, I won’t pretend China is any different at this point. A bunch of corporations calling the shots with decorations of communism or democracy. Propaganda used to convince people the government is more than a puppet to the wealthy at this point.
The only person who benefits from choosing to pursue truth than eat up propagandized unsourced theories is the self. I’ve taken some time to put pretty simple and evident, verifiable information right up there, if you wish to ignore it, you’re the only one affected by it, I win nothing else than the pleasure of sharing and explaining information that I think is representative of things as they exist in our world.
I have chosen the path of academic information such as books and papers to back up my beliefs, and not of oversimplified information with no source. Do you really believe that world politics and diplomatical relationships of the biggest superpowers layered on top of an information war that spans more than a century opposing the colonial post-colonial western states to the anti-colonial and anti-imperial global south can really be summed up to “It’s pretty obvious what has happened really”? It almost sound like satire when I read it again.
Oh please China is a dictatorship, not communist or socialist. Just like the USA is not really a democracy, but a fascist oligarchy. There is a huge difference between what a nation says it is and what it actually is.
They are our “enemy” but also one of our favorite trading partners. US citizens have invested a ridiculous amount of money into China just like every country. China is great because of the US not despite it.
You have chosen the path of eating up propaganda and regurgitating it without realizing. With no critical lense you just believe whatever information they offer up to you. Everything you write must be satire I guess.
It’s well secured to not allow internal corruption
Meanwhile in China: from taizi dang, to current and bi-yearly purges because of corruption, including people very close to Xi.
Thanks for sharing! Love those #llm responses; just a tad biased, but so balanced and well-worded!
The US labor laws are not far behind the fucked up Chinese 9-9-6.
Wasn’t that deemed illegal back in 2021 by the Chinese Courts?
And didn’t it kick off a wave of labor protests? The lie flat movement?
I saw a bunch of articles in the past few weeks about seniors needing to work more years and the idea of retirement in the US “needing to change”. Presumably because we are tossing out big chiunks or our labor force and probably social security will be gutted by the republicans.
Just wait… they can get worse. And will if we don’t have free and fair elections anymore.
Some lucky manager just found his bottom 5% for the force ranked annual review. /s
Seriously, if you’ve ever managed in large corporation, you’ll understand this.
Didn’t know China has the same workaholic mentality as the US lol
Its so much worse in east asia. Japan and especially SK are even worse.
- Nine am to Nine pm, 6 days a week
All the more reason for AI to replace us! /s
A programmer died at the place I last worked. I had worked with him and I don’t think it was overwork but he was the type who naturally worked on the software so much because he genuinely enjoyed programming. After he died some of the management when talking about him went into how he worked so hard and the best way to honor him was work harder. At least it sounded that way to me. It ws creepy.
And some people still think that China is communist. Nah it’s just capitalism with a different flavor. Same goes for Vietnam which recently joined some wacky ass organisation of a certain orange American neoimperialist.
The housing situation is notably better though. They’ve got some good ideas (also the high speed rail).
All (or a lot of) the apartments in cities are leased from the government for 99 years.
And so the prices are incredibly reasonable for an average living space. No greedy layers of middlemen trying to suck passive income out of you.
I’m sure there’s examples of where it’s bad, but from what I’ve seen, their housing situation is pretty enviable.
They have entire cities with empty houses if I remember correctly, and the ultra high speed rail is immensely inefficient as air resistance is raising in square proportionally to speed
I think building houses that will never be used as similar bad as to less housing…
Do you have a source for the housing thing?
In terms of the rail having air resistance that feels a bit of a Fox News point. It’s not perfect so why bother with anything but loads of big cars?
The sheer amount of rail rolled out in the last 10 years dwarfs anything any other country is doing.
Yeah. @petter1@discuss.tchncs.de has a valid point but as we all know validity does not equal truth. regular rail is one of the most efficient modes of transit and high speed rail degrades due to the speed but high speed generally does not compete with regular rail as much as air travel due to the long distance which is not more efficient than the high speed rail. In addition high speed rail tends to be electrical while most regular rail is diesel or worse and the electricification alone brings its co2 per personmiles below the low speed. The other thing it competes with or replaces is car travel which it is more efficient than although Im not sure how that plays out with very efficient electric cars but my guess is it still would win by volume for even something like the aptera and of course the high speed rail is going much faster getting you there in timeframes more like air travel.
Of course, hi-speed trains are way better than personal cars and airplanes 😄
I just wanted to point out that the “fastest trains in the world” trophy is not something achieved saintly, but because it had to be the “best”, a la make big numbers bigger.
The growth of value for the people is minimal, but the (energy) costs are immense.
With trains, punctuation is way more important than max speed 😇Its not because it had to be the best though. Its because it has to compete with planes. So im not sure what you mean by saintly but it was something needed to be more environmental since planes are not going anywhere.
I don’t know about fastest. Don’t Japan hold that title?
I’m just talking about the scale of them, and the average speed that they can manage (very important when looking at the scale of distances to travel).
Super weird. I didn’t know about that.
Probably the state invested so heavily in the sector that they created a bit of a bubble. Then to have them slow down suddenly would pop it.
I think it’s wasteful but not as bad as having not enough houses for everyone and a housing market that’s sucking most of the populace dry.
With a bit of innovation, maybe the market will find a use for all the apartments.
China is what the US is turning into, except the US doesn’t have any good infrastructure.
Trump is the shit version of Xi Jinping (literally).
trump is te trump version of Xi Jinping. Honestly I really feel trump is the trump version of putin and I feel putin is a trump version of Xi Jinping.
A random person dies by ordinary reasons - without sources - but he was Chinese, so therefore we just write it anyway…
Nonsense ‘article’…
Lmfao, the fake communist would rather ignore the health risks of over work to blindly support a fake communist country. Tell me you’re Wumao without telling me you’re Wumao. 🤣🤡
Wumao
today I learned…
Wumao refers to posters who post unrelated content to disengage conversations around subjects that are critical of China. The term also referred to a phenomenon on chinese social media platforms, and alleged that the community party was paying people to make the posts. The majority of people engaging in that pattern of content are members of the communist party, party officials in any capacity.
I know what it means and I mean what it means
Is Lemmy a chinese social media platform? :o
Also, you’re using the term to describe someone who is not engaging in the behavior the term is meant to describe.
Lemmy.ML. You know exactly what I’m talking about, you’re choosing to be ignorant.
I genuinely did not know that, I had not checked what instance they were from.
You’re essentially saying theyre a paid disinformation disseminator? But thats not what wumao means. It also doesnt describe a phenomenon in western online spaces, but rather one on China’s social media networks. I’m not making a statement of agreement or disagreement with the idea that theyre a paid bad actor. I am calling out your usage of the term wumao.
You know what I’m saying, you’re purposefully pretending to be ignorant because you support them. Or, they are your alt. Few people here are confused what I mean, even if they disagree with me.
When I see on Lemmy a post about immigrants in Spain (my homeland) dying in summer due to heatstroke being overworked at 39°C, I’ll believe you. Until then, shut up, propagandist
Oh, when did you post these prior?
I didn’t. I’m say the news exists… but Lemmy doesn’t have it. Which is a problem with Lemmy.
The user who initially commented suggested that the entire act of writing an article about this topic was only because it was about China. Which is just the favoring China, for… whatever reason.
But, to your complaint, I agree there are a lot of countries that don’t get enough coverage on Lemmy. It’s usually US and China, because Lemmy has a large population of fake communists who hate the US, and have never been to China.
I would enjoy knowing more about what is going on in the world outside of the loud countries.
This post wasn’t posted by “fake commies”, it was posted precisely by libs. It’s atrocity propaganda of working conditions in China to make people dislike the country, and I posted my comment because it’s patent that you don’t care about the living conditions of the working class as much as you care about doing dunks on China because you dislike its form of socialism
It was posted because it was written. The person complaining about the article was a fake communist.
You’re, suspiciously, trying to twist words to your own desire. But I’m sorry, you’re just wrong.
I’m not the one complaining about articles pointing out poor living conditions. They did.
Then you, suspiciously, pop up trying to gaslight me into coming off as the bad guy? WOW. Try harder.
Maybe you should care about the living conditions of the working class in China for once in your life.
China isn’t socialism. Lmfao, Wumao.
How is poohie doing these days?
