AI-washing layoffs. They will replace jack shit with AI but that’s a better story than “we have to reduce costs because we don’t have cheap ways to refinance our $1B debt”.
Credit isn’t cheap and Iran is not going to make it cheaper, investments in software have tanked, so the only story that can still be told with an almost straight face is that they still have big growth opportunities thanks to the magic of AI.
Of all the shitty AI products flooding the market right now, Atlassian’s Rovo has got to be the most useless I’ve had the misfortune of using.
They should be hiring more workers to fix their AI slop, not replacing them with even more of it.
Trying to get Rovo to do things in JIRA is like trying to train a chimp to cram shit back into an elephant’s ass.
Made me chuckle)
Rovo made it easier for me to find things that search was quite useless at finding. I found no other benefits to Rovo.
I FUCKING hate jira with a passion. I swear to god that dumbfuck software is nothing but a miserable time sink.
I am sorry for the people who got laid off. Also there is no way AI is replacing the CTO….
I use Jira at work and I still have no idea what the fuck it is, what it’s for, or why it’s so needlessly complicated. It’s a list of text with some dates and names. Why is that worth shit?
It creates pretty productivity related graphs your manager/PM loves, that’s the real usage.
Omg yes… the legends and epics… its just shit
@IWW4 @themachinestops
For some reason all #java #web #software usually escalates into horrible mess XD
same for #salesforce its a mess of a #brainfart but they developed their own #devlang probably full of #errors
They will rehire for less. The AI hype is just a wage suppression scheme.
My employer has been axing so many high level engineers it’s not even funny. I think that’s terrible for engineer morale. Why would you want to strive to improve and get promoted if it just makes you “too expensive to keep on payroll”?
We need more tech unions and tech coops.
Guillotines we need more guillotines
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Add this on top of federal layoffs, inflation, tariffs, higher interest rates (I know they’re necessary sometimes), etc. The average American is getting screwed right now.
There is a Jira ticket (ID-240) for Atlassian requesting the ability to merge Atlassian accounts that is over 10 years old. I’m one of the 1,450 watchers. This news does not bode well for this ticket ever getting implemented.
About 6 months ago they spent more than half a billion acquiring The Browser Company whose only currently-being-developed product is a pretty wrapper for ChatGPT
That explains the explosion of unwanted AI features in Jira these days. No, I don’t need you to re-write my fucking ticket comment!
So you telling me Jira and all its related bullshit will get even worse? I hadn’t thought it possible.
You’re absolutely right!
Would you like me to yassify this ticket for you?
That’s just a failure of learning and imagination.
I’m just being facetious, I of course know there is no bottom to how shitty things can be.
Pretty much all of my colleagues wasted time, because Jira stores comments locally that you haven’t yet sent, but does not do that for replies on comments. Those are gone after reopening the site for some reason.
Edit/note: I probably didn’t make my comment very clear. I’m aware it’s 1600 being laid off. More that I didn’t realise that Atlassian had 16k people in total. 16,000 people making their products progressively worse.
Even if their company only had 1600 ppl, I’d still say they were wasteful.
About 16k workers? How!?
What a waste of human effort, time and resources. All to make a few bad products, worse.
It’s not 16k, it’s 800×2
You could save a LOT of money by replacing the execs with AI.
You can save even more money by shutting down Atlassian and all its trash products
It better yet, replace them with nothing at all.
Ticketing systems are useful. It’s not really all that practical to carry all that workflow and prioritization info as metadata on a version-control system. And some devs might think it’s unnecessary, but that’s because they’re sheltered from all the higher-level planning, resourcing and portfolio management that they never need to think about.
I think the person you were responding to meant that the execs were not useful (see the parent comment), or at least not as useful to the overall enterprise as their salaries would have lead you to believe, in comparison to a standard developer.
Yes workflow systems are useful. Jira is a bad implementation to a good idea. It might help if they listened to feedback from people who actually used their software to improve it. Tbf they do make some good changes occasionally, like adding dark mode (which isn’t perfect but also it isn’t nothing).
Trello has been getting worse
I switched to linear because trello got so bad. Jira has become bloated and impractical.
Self-hosted Planka. I use it for personal boards and it’s plenty for me. Integrates with Authentik/SSO too.
It’s not because of their garbage AI. It’s because their garbage AI is leading to people dropping them like a bad habit for open source and fucking Microsoft alternatives, so they need to reduce operating costs and CAPEX to demonstrate profit growth
“AI is too dumb to take our jobs” as if that matters. that’s not even the point, the point of Generative AI is to mine data and devalue human labour. according to the like 120 people who run this world too many people are making too much money so now we have a dogshit “technology” made to cut your wages whenever it’s convenient.
Atlassian is getting thrashed in the stockmarket and they’re using AI as a get out of jail free card to conduct massive layoffs.
Its too bad that in the end they are just making forgettable tools that jira aside already have extensive competition, that actually feel built for enterprise vs the garbage atlassian is making.
If it wasn’t for the army of agile cultists who claim that work is impossible without Jira they’d probably already be a much smaller company.
Maybe because stock price hit the floor cause no profits from their work?
That sucks, but how the fuck does Atlassian have 16,000 workers to begin with? What do they all do? And their products look like… Guestures at all of them
You’ve got an extra digit there
No he doesn’t. The redundant 1,600 are only 10% of the workforce. 16,000 total.
You know what? That makes a lot of sense.
Yet everyone helps feed this AI beast. No one thinks… Maybe I’m helping this through my data.
this post helps to feed the AI beast
there’s no escaping it; let’s not do with AI what we’ve done with CO2 and plastic and shift blame to individuals
I agree. However we are feeding it not through the data, but through $, subscriptions and data minng.
We have a choice to renounce the subscription to meta, OpenAi, yet we dont.
