Yet people keep recommending products by this scummy company and pile on Firefox for slightest missteps.
Mozilla should be scrutinized, even if Firefox is currently the best option.
I think the only thing keeping them inline is loud community backlash everytime they make one of those misssteps.
I think everyone should be held to the same standard. We can yell at Firefox a bit less. We should yell at Brave a lot more.
Same standard means we make noise when we don’t like something.
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Sorry man, but the minute Firefox added that keylogger, I dipped.
Firefox rendering engine is dogshit and they are massively behind.
This coming from someone that was using Netscape and Mozilla and Firefox since its release.
Firefox doesn’t include a keylogger. It does have the infamous privacy preserving attribution but this can easily be disabled in settings.
In contrast, Chrome is literally a tool for Google to gain as much personal information as possible for Googles advertisement platform. It has the worst privacy features of the three major browsers and cannot be fully made private due to crippled extension support.
Firefox engine has some catching up to do, but the Safari rendering engine is behind Firefox on features.
I find LibreWolf to be the better option for privacy, I never have an issue with rendering.
I don’t know what you’re on about. There is no keylogger and I don’t have any issues with the engine unless it’s some weird ass “chrome experiments” style website which I couldn’t care less about.
You either die a Netscape Navigator, or you live long enough to become a… any of em, really.
They removed the paw, they are worse than Chrome! I’m going to use an alternative version that cannot exist without the main project to teach them a lesson!
Alternatives being even worse doesn’t make firefox good, or invalidate any objective criticism against it.
I did not say otherwise.
this is a new browser and i have no idea why anyone would want to use it
because Brave is unchanged and still the best browser in the world right now
WOOOO!
Brave has always been a joke. And Brave users will always be a joke. And anyone who’s ever simped for Brave will always be a moron.
when do you think brave will overtake firefox in share worldwide?
1 year, 2?
lol
Never?
Eh, I use it for watching youtube.
For some reason (likely youtube fighting my adblockers) I get tons of errors and issues with youtube on firefox. But Brave works alright, and also blocks the ads. So it’s my dedicated youtube browser.
never had issues with firefox and ublock origin and youtube and whatever and neither on android, linux, windows or whatsoever. guess i am just not dumb enough
Fuck that leaky browser. Asshole development.
Brave lets people use Origin for free if they’re on Linux
lol
I feel like if you’re writing the sentence “an optional, paid version of our browser that offers Brave […] without its extra features,” you need to sit back and take a long, hard look at yourself.
Adds features and asks for a payment to access the toggle buttons
hahahahahaha
Brave thinks its users are suckers
Its founder and CEO thinks that gay people shouldn’t have rights, too.
Pay for adblock by the guy who made us need NoScript.
To be fair…most of the general population are indeed suckers.
To be fair, brave users are suckers
I don’t use Brave, but one correction. From the article: "Brave sells Origin to strip added features—a $60 one-time fee (free on Linux). "
Brave thinks its Windows and OSX users are suckers, not its Linux users apparently.
Evidence points to them being suckers, yes.
Brave runs an ad network.
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The top comment on that site says you can already disable all of these features from within the settings. Is this true?
It’s true, if you don’t want to spend 5 minutes customizing your browser to your needs you can use GitHub script that disables all of the features for you. But I don’t see how feature like reader isn’t handy, it often lets you bypass paywalls for free.
Are brave and Plex related?
No, but brave “shields”, aka pre installed but shittier unlock origin, can sometimes break plex or other sites that require certain things that could look like trackers
I meant because Plex also added so much extra shitty shit that I never asked for and couldn’t remove, so I moved to jellyfin
I read the article.
But also I’m out of the lool on why ppl hate Brave. Can someone clue me in?
Is there a better cross-platform browser? I like to use the same one across devices.
I don’t have a strong opinion on brave, but here’s some reasons I can think of:
- cryptocoin shit
- based on chromium (so using this instead of firefox, for example, increases google’s hegemony – and this is true: even though chromium is open source, google completely controls its direction)
- CEO is a homophobe
- scammy business practices like inserting affiliate codes in urls
And this is just the stuff that I know from the top of my head. I don’t particularly care about this topic, so I’m sure there’s more. Although, having written all this out, I can sense that my opinion of Brave has worsened significantly.
Isn’t it open source ? Can someone build a fork with all of this shit removed ?
Yeah I guess. Doesn’t really change any of the arguments against it though. I mean, it’s good that it’s open source of course, but the ceo is still a homophobe, for example. And it still chromium based, and so on.
The CEO is a POS and has ties to other rich unsavory people
In the past they have done money grabs. It’s been quite a while now.
They still run their own ad network and search engine, They’re definitely down to sell you out if you let them.
If you never sign up for the crypto, or use the VPN, and remove the buttons, it won’t hurt you.
If you run a plugin you can remove their newtab / default page
If you change the settings you can move off their search.
it is open source https://github.com/brave/brave-core
The only thing you’re getting out of them that’s above any other de-googled option is their anti-fingerprinting which is a little better than the others.
The other reason you’d run them is because they have a paid development staff blocking Youtube ads and they’re not doing it at the plugin level, so it’ll likely outlast the plugin models in Youtube’s race to piss people off.
In the end, if you’re in it for the paid blocking, doesn’t hurt to pay them something if you’re turning off all the stuff they’re using to make money on you.
If you’re in it for any other reason, there are literally dozens of forks you could use that give you the same experience that aren’t trying to sell you as their product.
Firefox, or its fork Librewolf if you really value privacy.
I’m using waterfox as my dedicated porn browser and have found few faults. Maybe I’ll go that direction for my main browser.
I tried LibreWolf and had issues that I can’t remember now.
Zen is just preselected no telemetry Firefox, also bleeding edge with Firefox updates
Brave is fine ish but they have issues, and a lot of them, which they usually fix within 24 hours but they’ve had a track record of like 8-10 issues per year, so just under once a month.
Don’t downvote me to hell cause it’s a reddit link, sorry, this is the most concise list I know of: https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/s/AErPH6iMl0
I haven’t heard of Zen and just checked out the wiki on it.
There are so many browsers! It’s hard to decide. I’ve tried quite a few over the years. Been running Brave as primary for 3-4 years.
I appreciate the Reddit link. Yikes. I’ve noticed the enshittification of Brave but didn’t know all the bad stuff they’ve done.
I do like that Brave works well on all my devices and sync is reliable. I don’t like running different browsers on diff platforms.
Time to do some testing and research…
Yeah, I like sync too and you can use Firefox sync with all Firefox based browsers.
Brave’s ceo also donated to California political efforts to overturn protections for gay marriage in the past
Brave Origin’s main feature isn’t what it adds but what it removes: it scraps email aliases, Leo AI, the VPN tool, the Brave Wallet implementation, and Speedreader, just to name a few features. You can either download a browser with all of those disabled, or you can upgrade your Brave browser with a panel that lets you tweak what ones you want to keep.
I don’t use brave but for someone ootl, why all the hate?
Brave Browser has faced controversy primarily due to its auto-completion of URLs with affiliate links that earned the company commissions without user consent, which raised concerns about transparency and user privacy. Additionally, its integration of cryptocurrency features has sparked debate over whether these add unnecessary complexity and potential privacy risks.
https://blog.alexseifert.com/2025/04/06/why-i-recommend-against-brave/
it’s just general enshittification
Brave sucks, lol, I use other browsers
This comment section is a great example of tribalism. The topic of web browsers always is for some weird reason.
