• onnekas@sopuli.xyz
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    30 days ago

    Reusing them, even in small experimental projects, underscores a broader sustainability opportunity.

    Bigger opportunity would be banning this shit.

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      It’s probably cheaper and simpler to modify (say you suddenly want it to turn on when you click 3 times) to use a 0.1€ chip than to figure out how to do it and build it with discrete components.

      20 years ago I was all “computer (chips) can do everything! We can use them everywhere! Replaceable, reprogrammable, fantastic!”

      And no one cared.

      Now they are everywhere and it’s just a fucking mess 😔

      Maybe 20 years from now the EU will have forced standards onto everything and you can (again) fix your dishwasher (and start it from work!!1!).

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      probably more expensive to make different mechanical components when a simple chip does it all for cheaper. how ev are cheaper than ice cars,

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    As a manufacturer/seller of disposable vapes, literally everyone wants refillable tanks.

    Obviously the customer does too but we’re vertically integrated. We grow, extract, flavor, fill, and sell. Managing the logistics from China sucks and requires a decent amount of overbuying to ensure we have a steady stream. You never know when some orange retard will close up the border to x country that makes your stuff.

    I’d love to just have a CoA of the distillate, flavor mixer like a coke machine, and a fill nozzle for the customer to hand to the cashier to fill.

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      What happened to vaping?

      I specifically remember refillable vaping was exactly what you had when you vaped. You had the battery unit or a “mod” as it was called, on top of that you screwed a tank that had the coils, cotton and liquid, all that shit could be individually replaced and everybody had their own frankensteins combination of mod tank and other peripherals they liked to use.

      Why did that stop being a thing in favor of these absurdly wasteful disposable pens?

      • Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world
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        Yeah I’ve still got some of mine somewhere. I think the main reason the disposables took the market was partly that they are much cheaper, and partly that many people think they taste better. In my country the government has mandated that they be rechargable and have the flavour thingies replaceable, so they are, but they still seem to get thrown away a lot.

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      At the early days we had just that. I bought vegetable glycerine, nicotine and some flavour we were set.

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    I don’t get those pieces of crap. There were these fancy electric cigarettes years ago, using those 3.7V rechargeable batteries. Custom designs (saw lightsaber designs), custom liquids, repairable, no e-waste. What is wrong with people to use those crapsticks? And why do those dumbnuts don’t get that these things are e-waste not residual waste?

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      Instead of asking why people are buying disposables, ask why nobody is buying those reusable vapes. These disposable companies must be doing quite a few things better if people are willing to throw away money and tech.

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        Price.

        That is what they do better.

        Many many MANY people would sooner buy something for 5 dollars 20 times then something for $100 once whether financial necessity or not feeling guilty for buying the super expensive thing.

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          IMO it’s quality for the price more than just price, I’ve bought and used so many brands of refillable pods/tank mods and they always have quality problems that just don’t happen with the disposables. For anyone that’s experienced them, all I have to say is e-juice leakage.

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          Not to mention people being too lazy to want to do even basic maintenance. Also companies that prefer to sell something people need to keep buying over and over might not offer a longer term version.

          Not vaping or even disposable, but my manscaped face trimmer, which is supposedly a higher end one, was the first electric trimmer I’ve gotten that didn’t come with a little bottle of lube and the instructions even said “you don’t need to lube this!” Knowing that they hadn’t changed the laws of physics, I lubed it anyways and I’m convinced that’s the only reason it hasn’t permanently seized up by now because even with the lube and a full charge, there have been times where it didn’t want to start going without a good tap after turning it on.

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    24 MHz Arm Cortex M0+ processor. The chip also carried 24KB of flash storage and 3KB of static RAM.

    … a 10y old phone can barely load Google, and this is about 100x slower.

    Wild that you can serve anything with that hardware. Granted, static websites are basically just sending files over the wire.

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      The webpage he hosted was a copy of his own blog post explaining the hack. It just about fit into the 20KB of available flash storage.

      We can infer that on every request, the whole static page needs to be spooled out of flash onto RAM (in chunks no larger than 3k), then sent out over Ethernet.

      That’s an awful lot of work for the chip. I’m not surprised at all that it errors out under heavy load. The request queue probably grows until it collides with the buffer that bucket brigades the web page to the network.

      I’m afraid to look up what optimizations were necessary to get that level of performance. It’s damned impressive work.

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      The overall hardware package is in the same ballpark as an Arduino (25% less storage, but better processor and RAM), and people put servers on those . . . well, I won’t say “all the time”, but it isn’t an uncommon project, either.

      I wonder if anyone’s ever bootstrapped Forth on one of these vapes—given that there are implementations <512b for other arches, it should fit—and then you could program on it directly rather than flashing machine code compiled elsewhere.

      (The issue with 10-year-old phones on Google is that Google isn’t designed for low-end hardware anymore. It’s overloaded with scripts, styles, and other things that aren’t necessary for doing its job. Present a ten-year-old phone with a page with no client-side script and restrained styling, and I’d bet it would do fine.)

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      Ok here’s my trillion dollar idea:

      SmartVape CloudBar. A range of premium smart home vaping devices that connect to (and depend on) the cloud so you can smartvape remotely (e.g. in the bed, on the job, or even when travelling).

      Vaping, even locally, always works, unless your subscription has expired, there’s no internet connection available, or any of the necessary cloud service are down.

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        Probably only replacing the screen would work at this point. Android is quite flexible but you need some touch input to operate it.

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            You’re right, I haven’t thought of that. Maybe connecting it to a monitor through an HDMI enabled USB-C hub could work.

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        It just got dramatically worse, screen jumps up and down, unusable I won’t even be able to take phone calls. I can’t even restart it.