• PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml
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    Even those makeup are kinda useless since they can track you to your door, see the cars you got in, the people you met, see if those people posted on social media if they know someone trying anti-facial recognition methods, etc. They can easily make a list of people prone to use anti-facial recognition that lives in or walks by certain areas then recognize them by body-type, height, walking rhythm…

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      You aren’t wrong, but I still see two distinct benefits assuming there is an IR reflective or absorbent coating that can interfere with facial recognition.

      • For non government entities it makes direct tracking of individuals much harder (i.e. if you decide not to carry your phone or smart device any one company probably doesn’t know who you are).
      • For government entities it’s about making their job harder and increasing the error rate. You are right that they can still track someone via those means, but any time they have to correlate data or use multiple sources it does become more resource intensive in some way.

      Realistically will either of the above matter? Probably not. For it to be effective a large portion of the population would need to care about their privacy, or even their principles above convenience, which they usually don’t. However, I can’t control what other people do, only what I do. So in this kind of situation I do my best to be a good example of the behavior I would like to see from others and do my best to not contribute to the Prisoner’s Dilemma or Tragedy of the Commons.

      It’s not much, arguably it’s basically nothing, but it’s what I have.

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        I would also distinguish between investigations and drag nets. If they’re specifically looking into you and your business, then glasses won’t help. If they just want to identify 90% of people at a pretes pretest, these may be useful.

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      3 months ago

      Some of those mean the more people that use anti facial recognition tools, the more effective they will be for everyone. So we should probably just encourage everyone to use it.

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      They can easily make a list of people prone to use anti-facial recognition that lives in or walks by certain areas then recognize them by body-type, height, walking rhythm…

      Which is why everyone should put stones in their shoes, especially if going to a protest. 🙂

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        I’d strongly advise against doing this every day. I developed osteoarthritis in my 20s just from my feet being slightly misaligned. Walking wonky can very easily permanently wreck your joints.

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        3 months ago

        Even just protest shoes being different style then your normal ones probably make a difference. Different bag loadouts could affect it too.

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        Huh. I didn’t get a notice to accept cookies. The only thing I have enabled in their stack is:

        • zennioptical.com <—enabled
        • static.zennioptical.com<—enabled
        • www.zennioptical.com<—enabled
        • adn.cloud
        • tags.pw.adn.cloud
        • affirm.com <----probably the culprit
        • cdn1.affirm.com <----probably the culprit
        • algolia.net
        • hf4kjv5rn3-dsn.algolia.net
        • algolianet.com
        • hf4kjv5rn3-1.algolianet.com
        • hf4kjv5rn3-2.algolianet.com
        • hf4kjv5rn3-3.algolianet.com
        • b.akamaiedge.net<—enabled
  • /home/pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 months ago

    “All-in-one defense across the light spectrum —reflects near-infrared light, filters blue light, blocks 100% UV rays, and is light-adaptive for all-day comfort.”

    Apart from defending against facial recognition, this is really dope.

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    Please dont link to paywalled articles, unless you paste the whole article contents in the post

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      Providing the text or an archive link separately may be polite, but your request goes too far. If somebody shares a paywalled link that is on topic for the community, you have several options. You can ignore it and miss out, and be no worse off. You can find an archive copy yourself, and even share it in a comment to receive fake internet points. You can enjoy the discussion in the comments and maybe find other relevant links there. But you’re suggesting that the community is better off with fewer posts and less participation (“please don’t [post] unless”).

      The community rules include

      Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn’t great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post

      That’s a much nicer way of stating a preference to have OPs do the legwork. Please don’t discourage community participation.

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        Low effort posts harm our communities. Please don’t encourage harmful participation

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          At the time I’m submitting this one, this post has 77 comments, including a few with OP engaging in replies. There are several distinct healthy discussions that occurred in this post long before you complained that OP didn’t put in enough effort by violating 404’s copyright because you feel entitled to have a low-effort doomscrolling experience. OP isn’t the one hurting the community here.

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            People are commenting on a headline they can’t read. Lots of misinformation follows. Yes, that’s harmful

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    3 months ago

    So, how are these different that wearing a pair of very dark, wrap around sunglasses?

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    I’ve been thinking for a little while that it might be interesting to build on a pair of glasses with a couple IR LEDs at either edge and a battery pack to light them up. I can’t decide if that would be good to wear to a protest because the glare would likely obscure your entire face to cameras, or if it would be a bad idea because you’d stick out immediately on any surveillance.

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    There’s another site that sells actual privacy sunglasses (full IR blocking + reflective frames) but they’ve been sold out for months.

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      Reflectacles?

      I’ve had two pairs of these I bought years ago but unfortunately lost one pair. Chatted with the guy when I bought them and he seemed like a sound guy. I hope being sold out means his business is doing well!

      Only issue I have with them is they aren’t really wide enough and I have a small head. Not that they fit badly, they aren’t too tight but the design looks too small on my face that it looks a bit comedic tbh.

      They are also really nice to drive in at night as they stop you from being blinded by the absurdity that is modern headlights.

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        I’ve had my eye on them for ages and would love to get a set. And that’s such a good idea! For the night driving do you use the light lenses or the dark lenses? High beams are the bane of my existence…

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          The ones I use are the light lenses. They are yellow in colour and so don’t drastically decrease the light your eyes are getting like a darker glass might but tales away that glare.

          I recommend giving it a try if you can!

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    So, these actually work great when IR is used (for example you won’t be able to unlock your iPhone when wearing them), however my question is, does this help at all when just a normal photo is taken? You can wear these, have a ‘normal’ photo taken and it just looks like you’re wearing standard glasses. That could then be fed through CV, etc?

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    Oh, I tend to grab Zenni glasses every couple of years and saw that option. I opted against since I didn’t think they were much more than a gimmick, but also at time (and probably still is) they were not compatible with the kind that auto tint in the sun.

    I’m also pretty sure if I do get tracked, they have my phone and my unique appearance. I’m not sure someone of my height and build is going to be able to Luigi someone.

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    Anyone seen anything similar in the UK or EU? I had a look and couldn’t find this sort of lens coating at all