Just wait until you’ve heard about the war crime that is Ohio Valley-style pizza
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bro tried to sneak chicago in there
Hands down worst style of pizza I’ve ever tried. My company went on an outing in downtown Chicago to a place that was famous for it, and I was excited because I love Sicilian style and thought it would be similar. Nope, it was a three inch deep brick of bread. The crust, usually my favorite part, was an inedible greasy rind. Cold tomato paste on top sealed the deal.
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Cold is wrong and I dunno where the hell you you went. Cold is extremely wrong.
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I’m from Chicago and really it would save everyone a lot of trouble if we didn’t call it pizza. Honestly, we usually don’t. If you want pizza, you say pizza. If you want deep dish, you say deep dish. If someone said we were having pizza and then a deep dish pizza showed up, I would be pleasantly surprised, but I would still be surprised.
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No, it’s nothing like Sicilian style pizza.
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Greasy crust? Seriously where the hell did you go?
I live in the Chicago burbs but I can confirm we usually just say deep dish pizza instead of Chicago style
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Damn, I don’t think I’ve ever had a cold deep dish. That’s fucked up
Detroit style???
Owns bones yo
New Yorkers, gitdafugouttaheeeeeeah
Detroit Pizza has entered the chat:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit-style_pizza
“Detroit-style pizza was originally baked in rectangular steel trays designed for use as automotive drip pans or to hold small industrial parts in factories.”
Detroit Pizza is my favorite pizza style. I love a good New York pizza but the toasty favors and tang of detroit style are my favorite by far. I got the special pan to make it, and Charlie Anderson on YouTube has a fantastic recipe.
The tang is tetanus!
Sad thing is though that when I moved to Detroit, I learned that the “representative” pizza chains here are terrible. Jet’s has so much sugar in their sauce it’s literally sickening to even smell their pizza, and Buddy’s is flavorless.
Hell, my favorite pizza place near me is ran by a Chaldean couple. Fuck their pizza is so good.
I love Detroit style, especially from Jet’s pizza, so when I last went to Detroit I thought I’d try the original Detroit style from Buddy’s Pizza. It was pretty disappointing, so I guess, copycats do improve it sometimes.
Jets is probably one of the best widespread chains out there. If you’re in the area though, Green Lantern in Royal Oak absolutely slaps and is hands-down the best pizza I’ve ever had in my life. Don’t mistake it for the one in Madison, since they only have a “tavern” style.
My take was that buddy’s was a let down compared to the hype, but otherwise perfectly fine. They also charged for what the hype led me to expect.
Jets on the other hand gives you just as traditional Detroit style, but the quality advertised, expected, delivered and paid for is entirely uniform.
Buddy’s wants to be “nice” in a way that’s above what you can actually get out of a pizza place without being a “restaurant that can also make pizza”.
Detroit pizza is pretty good. It’s more or less a hybrid between Chicago and New York that matches the geographic location, same with Buffalo.
I am sure it’s true, but the wiki description sounds gross to me. A crispy and chewy crust does not sound appealing.
Geez everyone be gentle, I’m entitled to my opinions about pizza
focaccia??
Damn, focaccia pizza sounds dangerously good. Like I’d worf down a whole thing and immediately succumb to lethal levels of olive oil and cheese.
Welcome to Sicilian pizza! :) it’s a relative of Detroit style.
A crispy and chewy crust does not sound appealing.
Speak for yourself. That sounds delicious.
I would argue “sounds gross to me” is speaking for myself. But what do I know.
Dude, seriously, don’t take it too hard. Lemmy is a harsh place where downvotes are given out freely and abundantly. Kbin doesn’t downvote nearly as hard, and downvotes don’t get imported from Lemmy instances. You have a +6 from my point of view.
Just roll with it, and don’t let the haters get you down.
I don’t care about downvotes, but your comment explicitly says speak for yourself… hence my reply
You sure are entitled to your opinion. But we’re also entitled to make fun of your dumb opinion
Oh we’re soooo distinctive, ours is square!
And cooked in old automotive drip pans!
They’re not used drip pans, buddy. They were brand new pans made by the UAW because that pizza was thicc.
Mmm tell me more about how this pizza is contaminated with motor oil and antifreeze. That’s really making my mouth water.
Edit: Your downvotes have convinced me that thinking of an oil drip pan while eating pizza is appetizing. Detroit, I’m sure your pizza is as good as your football team.
lol you think they still make it in drip pans?
Or that they used used drip pans?
I don’t know, but I wouldn’t have thought that would have occurred to anyone in the first place.
https://www.foodnetwork.com/restaurants/photos/best-pizza-styles-in-the-country
In Steubenville, Ohio, and other Ohio River towns, local pizzerias dole out square pies covered with piles of cold — uncooked — grated cheese. Known as Ohio Valley-style pizza, these crisp-crust pies come out of the oven with just a coating of tomato sauce and are then covered with fresh cheese and often pepperoni. Each bite is warm, cool and crunchy all at once.
So, someone forgot to put cheese on the pizza before putting it in the oven. Then they took it out and was like “oh shit, I’ll just put the cheese on now and hope it melts.”
And when they got called out for having cold cheese on warm pizza they were like “yeah, that’s how we do it in Ohio. Specifically Ohio Valley. Fuck you, stop asking questions.”
Pretty much how half of all new foods are invented.
Well known in pittsburgh… really just tastes like a really shitty lunchable IMO. Every time im visiting the city, i grab a piece due to its regional uniqueness… every time though, i immediately regret my decision.
Also, not sure if it is actually a thing, or if it is just a really weird restaurant, but just east of pittsburgh, theres a pizza restaurant that uses pie dough (like for apple pies) instead of pizza dough. They pair it with an extremely sweet tomato sauce. Was super weird
I’m from Chicago, I lived in Pittsburgh for 7 years. Best pizza in Pittsburgh was Domino’s.
I don’t know who they are, but I am going to find them and burn their place down while calling the police to deliver my humanitarian award.
Detroit style is the best, fight me.
Detroit pizza is so fucking good. New York pizza is a greasy flap of falling toppings and Chicagoans will be the first to tell you chicago deep dish is an overrated cheese pool in a piecrust
Chicago’s thin crust/tavern pizza is far better than deep dish. That’s what they should be promoting.
I’m from Chicago and you don’t know anything about pizza. Chicago style Pizza is wildly popular for a reason, it is incredible.
I never heard of Detroit style but I think it looks very similar to what I would call a baking tray pizza (Blechpizza) in Germany.
No, not really. Detroit style has a much thinker crust, which is sort of what makes it unique.
Pretty similar, yeah.
Big difference would be that the Detroit pizza is a fair bit greasier, and the cheese goes to the edge so there’s no visible crust.
It basically makes it so that the dough is fried rather than baked.
Thick, crispy, cheese-overloaded crust, that shit is awesome. I still think sauce-on-cheese is freaking stupid, but aside from that it’s a 10/10.
I am born and raised in metro Detroit and the only place I think I’ve seen this “sauce on cheese” you speak of is just now, in the ultra staged photos that came up when I searched “detroit-style pizza” to figure out what you meant
You’re right, this is blasphemy. Let the record show that this is not at all
authentic to Detroitwhat makes it a Detroit-style pizzaI don’t believe you. I’m also born and raised in Detroit and you’re only faking being a Detroiter if you haven’t had Jet’s Pizza, Buddy’s Pizza, or Nikki’s Pizza in Greektown. All 3 places are well-known in the metro area for their pizza and all 3 of them serve it sauce on cheese. That’s what makes a Detroit Pizza a Detroit Pizza. There’s also Shield’s Pizza which is also sauce on cheese but they weren’t in “Detroit” proper for years until 2019 (even though they originally opened in Detroit).
Did you grow up in the suburbs or something?
Edit: Shield’s and Buddy’s are the original Detroit pizzas. Anyone who tells you they know anything about Detroit pizza that hasn’t tried them is lying to you.
For the posers coming in here trying to redefine the classic, even Wikipedia knows: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit-style_pizza. Note the image descriptions too:
“Detroit-style pizza showing typical lacy cheese crust edge and sauce on top”
“Detroit-style pizza showing sauce on top of some of the toppings, lacy cheese crust, and cheese to the edge”
Jets absolutely does not do sauce on cheese. Calling bullshit in your “born and raised” claim, son.
I’m sorry that your Jets sucks. The classic Detroit is a red top.
That’s Chicago pizza. Detroit has cheese on top.
False. It’s a red top with 3 stripes across the top.
Tell me you’ve never eaten a classic at Buddy’s or Shield’s without telling me.
I mean just look up jets deep dish and not a single image that comes up has any sauce over the cheese. That’s how my deep dishes have always come from there or anywhere else. Haven’t eaten at Buddy’s and haven’t heard of Nikki’s or Shield’s. I said metro Detroit so yeah I grew up in the suburbs around Pontiac but I didn’t realize that invalidated my opinion and made me a “fake detroiter” lol
Edit: also what makes it Detroit pizza is that it’s cooked in a deep square dish with little to no bare bread on the outside edges, not the toppings or sauce arrangement. You can take that or leave it and it’s still detroit-style.
I mean… Pontiac is not Detroit so yeah. If you haven’t even heard of the original Detroit Pizza, Shield’s, then you’re not a born and raised Detroiter. You’re a born and raised “Pontiacan”.
And no, what makes it a Detroit-style pizza isn’t just that it’s cooked in the square dish (which was originally an oil or drip pan). A classic Detroit-style pizza is cooked in the square, deep dish with the sauce under and on top of the cheese. It’s called a red top and the sauce is added in strips. I don’t need to take or leave anything. I’m not taking lessons on Detroit pizza from someone who wasn’t even born and raised in Detroit.
Edit: This place is worse than Reddit when it comes to people not knowing what the eff they’re talking about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit-style_pizza
“Detroit-style pizza showing typical lacy cheese crust edge and sauce on top”
“Detroit-style pizza showing sauce on top of some of the toppings, lacy cheese crust, and cheese to the edge”
The original pizzas from Buddy’s and then Shield’s were red tops.
lol sorry I didn’t realize you were the official gatekeeper of who/what is or isn’t Detroit. I guess I’ll just ignore all of the local news networks that refer to my area as metro Detroit and the rest of the world that will say I’m from Detroit and talk to me about Detroit when I point my city out on a map. I’ll just take your word for it that I don’t belong here since I didn’t come from your specific neighborhood.
Not to mention all of the pizza I’ve had, literally from the first place you personally named as having Detroit-style pizza…
YOU don’t have to take or leave or believe anything. Really not sure why you’re centering yourself in this conversation like that. Neither the world nor the detroit area revolves around you personally and I’m not about to take food lessons either from someone with their head so comfortably shoved up their own ass…
Why would anyone take you seriously when you can’t even understand that Pontiac and Detroit are two different cities?
Just because people don’t know where Pontiac is doesn’t mean it’s suddenly the same thing as Detroit, especially when we’re discussing food from that specific city.
The only person with their head shoved somewhere is you, buddy. Don’t be clowning about our culture when you have no idea what it even is.
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They can’t just do this! sobbing
They can’t just keep getting away with it! crying into a blanket
I feel unsafe.
This man needs his pizza license revoked.
I think you just gave me diabetes
That man’s face is brimming with unspeakable regret.
I do get pretty tired of food snobbery. Try it! You might like it! Worst thing that happens is you don’t eat it again.
No no, the way I like it is the way everyone should like it!
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I love Pizza Hut. Please don’t kill me.
I’m kind of an anti-snob, though. I’ll try just about any pizza and enjoy it. Some are certainly better than others, but most of them are pretty great.
Yeah, I know. I’m a philistine.
How do people feel about the places that make quick pizzas to order like Mod and Blaze?
From what I understand, Pizza Hut is shit in the US, but not everywhere. In Poland, for example, the pizza is really good, and the restaurants are quite nice. Nothing high end or fancy but definitely a restaurant You wouldn’t call fast food.
Yeah, I’m getting that impression. Maybe standards are just higher overseas and they have to be better to survive. I imagine health standards are higher.
Pizza Hut is good, but Jet’s is better
Never heard of Jets. We typically get everything about ten years after everyone else, though. I’ll be sure to try it if I ever come across one.
I don’t really like Pizza Hut, but the branch in Ulaanbataar was a godsend, because the local shops idea of a pizza was to put olivye salad on dough and call it a day. Same with Georgia, they prefer Khachapuri, so when you want an actual pizza you’re likely to get something weird, and that’s where Wendy’s comes to rescue. Just gotta check that those branches are legit because the worst pizza I’ve ever tried was from a local place that just called themselves “Papa John’s”, no relation to franchise whatsoever.
Dude, katchapuri is fucking dope I’d take that any day over Wendy’s.
Indeed it is, but not any day for me, sometimes I crave for a pizza specifically. Also, I’m not accustomed to local traditions, but I don’t think you could throw a khachapuri party
We really gotta stop judging people for pizza. I love dominos and I used to work near one when I worked at subway. I would put chipotle sauce, banana peppers, chicken, and more cheese and it’s one of the best pizzas I’ve had
I would put chipotle sauce, banana peppers, chicken, and more cheese and it’s one of the best pizzas I’ve had
You’re one of those people that comments on online recipes after swapping 7 ingredients for something else, aren’t you?
I didn’t have baking soda, so I used toothpaste inside. 0/10, would not recommend this brownie recipe.
I’ll tear up a frozen pizza. Nobody around me can do thin crust, so I just pick up a California Kitchen one from the grocery store.
I’ve loved PH forever. Stuffed crust pep lovers. Used to get two of those and a large ceaser salad, + ham + extra mozz every Friday and Warcraft through the weekend. I love a soft doughy crust with crispy edges
Mod mega is fire. Unlimited toppings, hot honey and garlic butter finish.
I don’t care for blaze.
Any time I hear people discussing pizza
Reminds me of that Daily Show clip.
However, Detroit, Connecticut, Regina, Greek and a few others are excellent.
Greek is my favorite city
Regina like in Saskatchewan? What is their signature pizza like? Because I’ve never heard people talking about the amazing pizza in Regina.
Super heavy, thick crust, deep dish pizza with an excessive amount of cheese, similar but different to Greek n Detroit, all the toppings under cheese, which is very nicely scorched. Sweeter side marinara, tangy heavy spiced and also applied excessively underneath. Probably a solid inch of meat n toppings, round pie, cut into 3x3 squares.
Well that does sound really good!
Detroit pizza is amazing. Who doesn’t like crispy cheese crust?
Man, you’d love Regina style. It’s a lot like Detroit, except it’s round and everything is under the wonderfully charred cheese.
I would love to try it but I can’t find it anywhere near me
I don’t know where you are, but it was on the news a while ago a Regina style place opened in Toronto somewhere, but generally can’t be found outside of south Saskatchewan except for a couple places in Calgary.
So what region does Grandma style pizza belong to?
Pretty sure that’s still NY/NJ area. But it imitates something homemade.
Trying new things is for LOSERS
All my homies live like the cave-dwellers from Plato’s allegory of the cave.
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Ohio Valley pizza is not what I thought it was. I grew up in Ohio and the only time I ate something that even reminds me of that was actually in Florence, Italy, oddly.
I grew up on Central Ohio tiny-pepperoni’d, square-cut pizzas.
Today, Detroit is probably my fave, followed by what is more-or-less a tie between NY and Chicago Deep Dish depending upon my mood. Ohio pizza still holds a place in my heart, but it’s definitely not in the top 3.
Isn’t Ohio style the really thin, almost cracker-like crust with edge to edge toppings? Similar to like a tavern-style pizza, or like a Chicago thin crust style?
Cincinnati has a pizza with fucking chilli on it. It was on the menu at the place I was at, and the bartender said it’s somewhat of a local delicacy. I asked her if there was anything special about the chilli. Yeah, there’s sugar in it, and it’s sweet. I laughed in her face and took a hard pass. Apparently they also put it on spaghetti. Fuck both of those dishes, I don’t need any Cincinnati “culture”.
It’s the chilli that’s a Cincinnati thing. They’ll put chilli and cheese on anything.
It comes from the signature dish the “three way” where they put chilli, cheese and onions on spaghetti.
I’ve also never seen any recipes with added sugar and would not describe the sauce as sweet. And it’s a Greek recipe. It’s called Cincinnati Chili because that’s where it became famous in the US.
If you’ve ever had a coney dog, then you’ve likely had the chili.
Somewhat fun fact: Coney dogs were invented by multiple different people at the same time. The likely first restaurant to have it was Coney Island in Fort Wayne, but no one can say for certain since multiple restaurants opened in 1914 selling them with slightly different recipes.
The sauce used was rather common in the Macedonian region. The US had a large influx of Greek immigrants in the early 1900s and many discovered it tasted great when added to American hot dogs.
A friend of mine makes some pretty accurate tasting imitation-skyline chili, and she definitely adds sugar. Never tried to make it myself (I think Cincinnati style “chilli” is aggressively OK)
It’s definitely pretty sweet and thin. I think it’s technically a Bolognese?
Cincinnati native here: a pinch of brown sugar and cocoa powder are both extremely common ingredients in local chili. That wouldn’t necessarily make it sweet though; we’re talking a teaspoon for a big pot. It’s just to give a light caramelized flavor and cut the acidity of the tomato.
Cinnamon too.
True! Forgot about that one.
Chili-mac (chili on noodles) is actually really good. I can’t recommend it enough.
Skyline chili is fantastic. It sounds like a horrible idea, but I love stopping there when I’m driving through.
I usually add chocolate chips and cinnamon to my chili!
